Has anyone noticed that over the last few months Lie Nielsen, and Veritas/Lee valley have put out a bunch of new tools? As well there seem to be a few down the pipe as well!
Veritas:
New Premium Block Planes
Dovetail Saw
Beading Tool
Screw Rabbet planes
Side Rabbet Plane
On the Canadian Woodworker Forum I see that they have a small scraper plane coming too, as well as their own set of drawbore pins.
LN:
Hammers
Drawbore pins
Drawer Lock Chisels
Burnisher
Fishtail Chisels
Panel Gauge
On the weekend I saw their chamfer plane, tongue and grove (now on the Website), comer chisels… and panels saws.
These guys are really looking to separate us from our money!
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What money? There is a recession going on, in case they hadn't noticed.
Joe
I've decided to reject the recession. Please begin buying things again...
I like it, instead of asking for a handout/bailout/subsidy/tariff/lawsuit they are producing well made things people want to trade money for.
Screw the people who think you can make money multiply by shaking it back and forth in a bag. These companys are what's right with the world. If the lawyers and politicians would drop dead honest enterprising companys like these would do very well for themselves and their employees.
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Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.~ Denis Diderot
Ladies and Gentlemen,Please be careful. You are talking sense. This may be interpreted as sedition.
That you can take to the bank. Liberty and freedom have always been alien concepts to entrenched governments.
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Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.~ Denis Diderot
Don,
When you say bankers I hear accountants in my ear too. Or perhaps companies that make decisions based on what their accountants tell them?
Regards,
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Edited 3/11/2009 8:42 pm ET by KiddervilleAcres
Right on!
Common sense? It's against the law isn't it?
Regards,Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
it sure seems against the law in my place of employ.
DB
Bob,
Common sense - an interesting concept but I never actually found any. It's got to the point where the two words seem to be mutually exclusive.
There is some good sense here and there; not much - it ain't at all commonly found and even if you do how do you know fer sure, eh, eh? Still, we must have faith in something.
There are a lot of commonly believed ideas, most of which seem to lack any kind of sense except of the post-modernist kind - i.e. reason, logic and similar are absent and we just make stuff up on a whim or to serve some personal agenda. Often the ideas are placed into lad's heads by The Daiy Frightener or Polecat News, so that the lads go of and do harm to themselves and others (which doesn't seem sensible at all).
Of course, I'm not too sure which sort of sense is which, meself, as I'm just as irrational as the rest o' ye swabs. Somehow I muddles through. Perhaps it's just good luck?
Lataxe, who can always make sense of things after he did them, via use of a large dollop of self-deception mixed in with a pint of irresistable rhetoric (gulp, gulp, aah).
I think you should add bankers to your list of politicians and lawyers.... Hal
"--lawyers and politicians would drop dead---"
You, sir, have hit the nail squarely on the head!!! Right freaking on!
Regards,
Mack"Close enough for government work=measured with a micrometer, marked with chalk and cut with an axe"
"There is a recession going on, in case they hadn't noticed." I don't know exactly how far in advance such tools releases are planned (design, prototypes, redesign, manufacture, etc.), but it would seem a couple years perhaps?
Keep in mind, too, that Lee Valley is a Canadian company; Canada has not felt the pinch near as much as the US.
forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
Edited 3/11/2009 10:11 pm by forestgirl
"These guys are really looking to separate us from our money!"
---- I can't think of a more honourable thing to do, myself, actually.
Otherwise, what are you going to do with that money- give it to some snake like Mr B. Madoff so he can make off with it? Bank it???? Which bank?? (;)
You make perfect sense.
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Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.~ Denis Diderot
Actually, I think that it's a good-thinking company that does what it can to accelerate the release of the "new models" during a downturn.
Fans of L-N and V/LV already have the older models, and probably won't be buying duplicates, since the ones they already have will last a few lifetimes.
The alternative to this action plan is, IMO, less desirable -- lay off the engineers and craftsmen that are working on the (not-yet-selling) new models, saving some salaries and benefits.
Hi Buster2000. Were you at the weekend show in Calgary? What did you think of the new LN tools?
I like all Lie Nielsen tools... If I won the lottery I'd just buy them all.The new tools are pretty cool. The panel saws will be on my birthday wish list. The chamfer plane sounds cool as well, apparently there will be an attachment for using the beading blades, which is cool.In the end the further the tool companies move away frm the basic plane set... the less I'll need the plane.Buster
Buster
About a month ago, I attended a LN Tool show at the Crucible in Oakland, CA. I took a gauge of the economy by how large the crowd was, and how many of them I thought were buying. There wasn't a long line at the LN check out, but there were enough people buying one or two tools. Methinks the galoots have saved up over the year, and are getting the tools for the 10% show discount. That covers Alameda County's 8.75% sales tax.
Good for LN to expand it line. They're clearly changing from being just a boutique plane maker to a premium tool supplier.
When Lie Nielsen markets their version of Bridge City's Jointmaker Pro, that's when they've really jumped the shark...
Cheers,
Seth
I showed up pretty early and was only there for about 30 min. I didn'tnotice a huge volume of sales, butthen again I wasn't paying attention. I think most people were settling down to make a morning of the event.
I don't believe there was a discount at teh Calgary show... but no shipping (and as far as I know there are no local stores selling LN). The current Can-US exchange rate is pretty bad. Paying an extra 25% for a LN tool sure makes the Veritas planes look good.
I think Veritas jumped the shark with the new block plane. Specialty tools are fine, I'm sure there are a few people that can justify buying a toungue and groove plane for the work they do.
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