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   SteveSchoene | Apr 03, 2009 04:27am | #1

   I'd ask the people who know--go to http://www.sealine.com and find a dealer that you could ask.  It's an English based company. and appears to be suffering from the state of the world wide economy.   

   In general, all species of veneer are available, at some price, but if what you have is fire damaged, you will likely have to replace the substrate as well.  You need to know which panels are structural and which are not, since in the quest to keep boats light, it is possible that things that just look like walls are really structural bulkheads. and need to be properly addressed. 

   A thorough survey before purchase is essential.  Pick the brain of the surveyor as well, after all you will be paying him/her. 

    

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   rlrefalo | Apr 03, 2009 05:36am | #2

   Thanks Steve, apparently the only distributor in this hemisphere is in Mexico..... from what I understand this company sold boats to their US distributors and then sold them for less directly to customers. So the distributors sued the manufacturer.

    Anyway, more specifically I'm asking about the veneer being applied over the laminate type backer which is applied to the substrate. Can veneer be purchased already applied to the laminate? This in particular is teak. I assume it would be a simple process of vacuum bagging onto the substrate then.

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   SteveSchoene | Apr 03, 2009 02:42pm | #3

   You can certainly buy teak veneer, some of it paper backed I assume, and you can buy teak plywood of a variety of thicknesses, but I am not clear as what the laminate backing is that you mention. 

   Removing interior parts from yachts to work on--like to vacuum bag new veneer to the surface--may be difficult.  Sometimes the boat is built around the interior.  (Or rather, the interior is built in the hull before the deck is applied.)  You may find that re-veneering would have to be done with the substrate still in place on board. 

   That would also mean that the new finish almost certainly couldn't be sprayed, but would likely have to be varnished in place by brush.  Lots of great vessels were finished that way, but it is time consuming.    

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   rlrefalo | Apr 03, 2009 04:37pm | #4

   Did a search, and found that phenolic backed veneer is available. So I assume that is what was used originally. What finish would likely have been used, any ideas?

   Rich

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   SteveSchoene | Apr 03, 2009 05:46pm | #5

   If it was originally finished before installation it could have been any of the high tech sprayed finishes, including conversion varnish or 2k polyurethane that would have required a full fledged spray booth for application.  It would not likely have been ordinary lacquer or simple pre-cat. 

   But finished on board would almost always be brushed on varnish. I frankly don't see how you could use anything else for a film finish.  In a meticulously clean environment that can be made to look spectacular.  Fortunately, for interiors the varnish can last for a very long time, since it gets no sun. 

   If by any chance you occassion to go by Bristol RI, visit the Herreshoff Museum to see the potential for really well done brightwork, both interior and exterior. 

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   rlrefalo | Apr 04, 2009 02:04am | #7

   Checked out the museum website, that looks pretty cool. Thanks

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   mapleman | Apr 03, 2009 08:40pm | #6

   Rich,

   You are correct, there are phenolic (formica) type substrates with real wood veneer already applied. My brother in law works for an elevator company and he gave me some cutoffs about 10 years ago. Can't recall the brand name off hand. Since the veneer is real wood you can use just about any finish that is made for wood. The sheets come in a variety of sizes with a heavy static cling plastic protective film on the face.

   This stuff is basically formica with a real wood veneer face. You apply the sheets just like regular laminate with a contact -type adhesive.

    

   Lee

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   rlrefalo | Apr 04, 2009 02:09am | #8

   Thanks guys, I appreciate the help.

   Rich