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   emerckx | Feb 05, 2004 02:43am | #1

   Dan,

   I'm assuming that these are frameless or "Euro style" cabinets. If so, I don't know how you will take out the twist. I like the traditional face frame and inset door look, so between the square back and the square faceframe I rarely get a box out of square. If you you are making face frame cabinates, you may be able to square it up with the face frame, though that's easier when done while the glue is still wet.

   Mike

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   JohnWW | Feb 05, 2004 02:47am | #2

   Dan,

   Probably not.  Though you may be able to hide the problem behind the face frames it will probably come back to haunt you when you go to fit shelves or drawers.

   Something probably slipped out of square when you were cutting the components or when you cut dadoes or rabbets.  You need to go back and find out what is out of square and what caused it. 

   Start out by checking your squares first then use the most accurate one to check the accuracy of your cutting and joinery.

   John W.

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   dmt | Feb 06, 2004 02:04am | #5

   Thanks to all. I didn't think there was a silver bullet, but there is no harm in asking. JohnW was correct -- I cut one piece in each cabinet 3/16" over size. There was no way to bring them into alignment.

   Thanks again.Dan T.

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   CRAIGCONEY_M | Feb 05, 2004 03:35am | #3

   not sure what type of joinery you are using, and what type of glue.  More than likely something was not square in the cutting process or you had a bowed panel affecting cuts.  If you used yellow glue, you could try to cross clamp the corners to square it up & use a heat gun to heat the glue "& let it cool to try to save it, but depending on how far you are into the job, it may be quicker & easier to just build 2 new boxes.

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   brianmexico | Feb 05, 2004 05:13am | #4

   Hey there DanT

   I've build a lot of kitchen cabinets and I still like to do a dry run before I commit to the glue-up. When you get into the grove usually your measurements come out good but I don't know how many times I've been interupted by a phone call or customer then cut something off in a hurry to get back at it. My recomendation: lock all the shop doors, BIG "DO NOT DISTURB" sign on the door, loud music (optional), earplugs, and remove batteries from every phone within 30 yards. Shop time is sacrid, enjoy it.

   Good luck with the rest of the cabinets.

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   fredsmart48 | Feb 06, 2004 08:08am | #6

   You can dissolve yellow glue with vinegar.  You could use a hypodermic and inject the vinegar into the joint take the joint.  After you get the joint apart cut it to the size. 

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   JMartinsky | Feb 06, 2004 07:47pm | #7

   Yep, I've been there, took the same approach to squaring up and had the same results. The faceframe may help, but probably not. Do yourself a favor and either remake the boxes or see if you can get away with disassembly /cut/ reassembly. I tend to glue my backs in, so I might try to cut the offending peice with a circular saw and a straightedge and reassemble, otherwise I would remake the boxes. There is a consistancy to these things and if its fighting you now, so it will during the faceframe phase, again during installation, again during the door installation, and yet at least one more time on a callback. If these cabinets are for you, I would definitely rebuild the boxes because coupled with the previously stated offences, those two boxes will always be the first thing that I look at when I enter the room. Let us know how it worked out.

   Good Luck!

   John

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   dondownunder | Feb 07, 2004 09:17am | #8

   DanT

   Do yourself a favour & either pull them apart & rebuild or make new ones. Otherwise that old saying that supervisors continually harp on at their apprentices will come into play (that is if you try to fudge it now it'll come back & bite you on the a*s 10 fold).

   If the prospect doesn't impress you much, any thing other than doing it right will just frustrate you even more later.

   Don