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   philip | Mar 17, 2007 08:47am | #1

   I think you dunno quite rightly. I would just screw the top to the carcase from below. It's all the same timber and grain running the same, right? Or is there an ambush of some sort?

   Philip Marcou
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   MaxYak | Mar 17, 2007 09:07am | #2

   And now for the neophyte question: why is gluing the face of one big board to another a problem?

   Thanks,

       Mike

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   cowtown | Mar 17, 2007 09:51am | #3

   Glueing one big board to another brings with it the responsibility for clamping it. In my shop, should I opt for this route, I'd have to clamp it, and even with 15 minutes of clamping, another minimum 1/2 hr of dry time, theres 45 minutes of assembly time, vs 10 minutes of attaching the sucker with screws. No brainer. time saved.Not to mention that if the top should be damaged-such as with errant flower-wateration, over-exuberant drinkers, etc; with screws you just replace it, with glue you is hooped into total replacement. Exactly the same reason that yer car ain't cast as one solid piece of metal. You may find yu need to replace just one part.That's just my perspective on yer query. Eric

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   philip | Mar 17, 2007 12:31pm | #4

   Max, as Eric in Cowtown has just said: "it jest aint done."
   Philip, in SheepCountry.Philip Marcou

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   forestgirl | Mar 17, 2007 06:17pm | #8

   Technically, I couldn't think of any significant reasons not to glue them together, as the grain is running in the same direction, so there wouldn't be any cross-grain movement problems.  There is a possibility, of course, that the wood of the topmost piece might want to cup for some reason, though under paint this really should not happen.

   It just "felt" like it wasn't a great idea  You know us women, we work with intuition alot, LOL.  The magazine really designed this one on-the-cheap, IMHO, with butt joints and screws, rather than dados, a short back, one or two other lazy ways of doing things, so I just wanted to check with those who know and make sure I wasn't falling into some kind of trap.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-) 

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   UnclePablo | Mar 17, 2007 01:38pm | #5

   Can you do it? Yes. You have no cross grain issue so it can be done. Is it common to do so? No. It is more practical to screw the pieces together. IMHO

   -Paul

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   GRW | Mar 17, 2007 02:27pm | #6

   With that much glue surface, glueing will be stronger than screwing. If you add a couple of dowels it won't slide around during clamping.

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   KiddervilleAcres | Mar 17, 2007 04:26pm | #7

   Notwithstanding I wonder if there would be any issues with regard to wood movement if glue is used.  If there are no issues is it because everything is to be painted?

   To me it appears that the merits of using screws far outweigh any advantages that glue might offer.

   Just my thoughts,Bob @ Kidderville Acres

    

   A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!

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   JMartinsky | Mar 17, 2007 06:36pm | #9

   Dear FG,
   I'm with Philip, trust your instincts, go with screws.

   Best,

   John

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   munchkin1 | Mar 17, 2007 07:32pm | #10

    Hi, no joiner carpenter tradesman apprentice or cabinet maker hides his mistakes no not even under [Paint]  be proud and stand up [I made this] what is the trade coming to DIY.

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   ring | Mar 18, 2007 12:56pm | #11

   1. I wouldn't glue it. Screws are just fine.
   2. I probably wouldn't even make the top as a single piece, but run the profile on a 2" wide strip and miter the pieces together to get the cornice. Another 10 minutes of work but avoids all that endgrain which needs to be painted and probably will cup at some point anyway...

   David Ring

   http://www.touchwood.co.il/?id=1&lang=e

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   Lindau | Mar 18, 2007 02:23pm | #12

   Forestgirl, If I wasn't in a hurry, I'd glue it to prevent cupping down the line. If I was to screw it only, I'd paint the both sides of the top board before hand. Painting just the top could actually cause the board to cup. Bill

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   douglas2cats | Mar 18, 2007 02:42pm | #13

   If you can cut both pieces from the same longer board I'd go ahead and glue it. Otherwise I'd trust your instincts and screw it - or maybe only glue along the front edge and use screws as it goes towards the back. Both pieces from the same board should move at the same rate. Different boards....??

    

   If you build it he will come.