I am nearing the millwork phase of our home construction in Danby, Vermont. We are new to the area and unfamiliar with any local suppliers. I am looking for local sources of sheet goods and rough (dry) lumber for cabinets, flooring, doors and trim. I have a good deal of cherry and maple, as well as a cheap source of supply for those species. I am specifically looking for some quartersawn white oak for flooring, plain sawn white oak, hickory, walnut and a little red oak, red birch and flame birch. My wife loves knotty alder and would like her kitchen in that; I don’t suppose I’ll find a local supplier, but if anyone can tell me it’s you folks on knots. I too like the warm look of alder with a clear finish….for that matter I am reluctant to stain any wood, but prefer the natural color. Thanks for the help!
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I'm constantly amazed at how difficult it is to find retail hardwoods here in the heart of the eastern hardwood forest.....
That said, I deal mostly with Baker Lumber of White River Junction - good selection, both hardwoods and sheetgoods, and usually reasonable quality. They also deliver around VT once a week - call them (802-291-9102) and see what day they're in your area. If you want to travel and pick your stock, they're right near the VA hospital, just off I-91 (89?)
VT Hardwoods in Chester is another option - pickings can be slim.
I'd be interested in any other sources you may turn up - let me know +/or I'll keep watching here.
Good luck!
I'm in the northern half of Vermont. I get my sheet goods In Essex Jct. at Morse hardwoods. Better rates for pros, and deeper discounts over 10 sheets of any one kind/thickness. I think they MAY have a branch further southeast of Essex Jct.
Hardwoods can be found at Tom Lathrops (sp?) or A. Johnson's both in Bristol. That may be too far north for you. A. Johnsons has pretty good bulk rates for bundles that around 500 BF. Now and then they have smaller bundles. Not often. These locations handle a few typles of wood, but mostly maple and cherry. A.Johnson's takes an additional 2% off for cash/check on bundles (2% off wholesale) or 10% off retail. Tom Laythrops is a smaller operation and may do more specialty work for you. They are both on Rt. 116 in Bristol near the intersection of Rt 17.
Thanks, keep them coming. I can find hard maple, cherry and softwoods easily; there are even some small local sawmills, but they usually only have one species of any quanity. I have a resource for abundant elm at a good price, but I'm not sure I have a place for it. How is elm for flooring?
Not sure how close these folks are to you, but have you tried Northend Hardwoods in Lyndonville? I called them and they sent me a fax of their pricelists. They have both solid wood and plywoods. Not sure how their prices compare to others.
http://www.northendhardwoods.com/index.html
Regards,Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Bob,
Northend Hardwoods prices are much higher than other retailers in my area. I have been to their Williston VT. location. I have bought some exotic woods from them that other locals don't stock. But generally I save about 35-40% making a 45 min trip (Instead of 15 min) and getting wholesale rates. I've been using about 1000 bf/year not including veneered plywood. So my bulk purchases have saved me hundreds of $$ on wood, and time running around. I might think differently if I bought less wood.
Thanks. I was thinking their prices were a bit high.
Unfortunately where I am they are about the closest supplier of any wood that even closely resembles cabinet/furniture grade lumber.
I have been trying to convince the local Ethan Allen furniture factory (10 miles from me) that they could supplement their income by selling some of their wood.
Would you believe that their biggest concern is competition! Meanwhile they're sales are declining rapidly and with the economic outlook what it is, they will undoubtedly decline even further. A friend of mine works in the rough mill and you wouldn't believe the wood they through into the chipper! It would make you sick.
Regards,Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Bob,
I know at least one Ethan Allen factory in Vt has closed. I looked in their show room a couple of years ago. They (as others) have starting to cut some corners in their products. As I see it, that usually means the begining of the end.
"I'm in the northern half of Vermont."
I never realized that Vermont was big enough to have a "northern" and a "southern." ;-)
-Steve
Steve,
Oh ya, we have a northern, and southern Vermont. Here's how it's measured.
Take a pee of the back porch. What you can't reach is the southern half. It works the same in the south except you need to pee off the front porch.
Actually for weather reports we have north, south, and central regions and in the "Greens" or not. We also have the Northeast Kingdom, the Banana Belt, and the Islands. We also have Burlington, where 80% of the population lives, but they're hardly part of Vermont anymore.Mud season starts soon and then "You can't get there from here." won't just be a joke.John White
Rochester, VT
Hey, John, there's plenty enough Yankee cheapness in Burlington to go around for the rest of the state!!! Anyhow, I thought that other flatlanders weren't supposed to make the comment about Burlington being "barely part of Vermont"!
Anyhow, I wanted to second the recommendation of Lathrop's in Bristol. It's one of my favorite places to buy local wood, and they always have what I'm looking for. I've found Tom's prices to be very fair.
-Andy, at home in Queen City, where _we_ didn't vote to indict the president as certain southern towns did...
OK yeah, I'm a flatlander, only lived here 36 years, but Burlingtonians are all stuck up and yuppified and flaunting how they're always on somebody's 10 best cities to live in list.If I were going to live in a city again, I'd live in a real city like New York or San Francisco. If I were going to live in an urban area in VT, I'd live in Montpelier, a much classier place.As for indicting Bush, that's what town meeting democracy is all about, I love it.John W.
Burlingtonians are all stuck up and yuppified and flaunting how they're always on somebody's 10 best cities to live in list.
Yeah, isn't that funny since Burlington and the surrounding region has been dealing with a serious crime wave the last few years. Several times each week there's a report on the evening news of a gas station robbery, a home invasion, a pharmacy broken into, a shooting, etc. Not bad for a city of less than 50,000 people! With any luck, the perpetrators will be caught and appear before the same judge that gave the child molestor 45 days as a sentence last year. So much for traditional New England values and small town charm!
Edited 3/6/2008 9:15 pm ET by pzaxtl
Andy,
I'm not knocking the Queen City. But it is the only part of Vt. that doesn't have a mud season. I spent 4 years there in the Green and Gold school on the hill.
Spend a few days in the Northeast Kingdom. You'll agree. They are 2 different worlds. If you want to sell woodwork, The queen City and it's 15 mile radius is where you want to be. More $$ there... Of course there is Stowe...
Good to see you're alive and well.
You must be a flatlander
For hardwood you might also try Main St. Millworks out of Springfield, MA. They run trucks up to Vermont. I'm not sure if they will sell retail and they do have minimum qty. requirements, but it might be worth a call anyway. # is 413-773-5064. Ask for Rudy, and you can tell him I gave you his name. For sheet stock, you could try Atlantic Plywood. They're in CT but run trucks up to Vermont on Tuesdays and Thursdays. # is 800-877-2759. Or you could try North Pacific out of Royalton. # is 877-263-3475. Ask for Glen. Both of them may also have restrictions on retail sales, but worth a try anyway.
Good luck
Andy Charron
Thanks Andy, I hadn't thought to look that far. I got all the sheet goods for our CT home from Atlantic.
Wow, all these Vermonters here, who'd a thunk it?
Rk Miles in Manchester, although a home center/lumber yard, has always been able to help get me the materials I need (through them) or point me to the local guys for specialty stuff. A good resource and worth the phone call.
Talk to Mike Jamieson or Richard Babcock in lumber sales.
-Norm
That's intriguing; Mike has been a great help to me throughout our building project. I wouldn't have thought to ask them.
You might try:
Kerber Farms and Mills Rte 5
Guilford, Vt 802 257-0614
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or:In Greenfield, MA -- right off I-91 just south of the VT border,Forest Products Associates.
http://www.forestproductsassociates.com/
They're stronger on cabinet-making wood, but often have nicely figured wood,
I havent bought from either . The first one-a small mill- had some good looking lumber,the second one was a tip in my notes from someone else. There also is "the Woodery" in Lunenberg, Ma but that may be a bit far to go.
I also strongly recommend Forest Products http://www.forestproductsassociates.com. I currently live in RI, but discovered them while living in Brattleboro. Sue is the main person you will deal with there and she is AWESOME! They have a great selection and always enough inventory in every species. Not just maple and cherry, but many of the exotics too. Not the easiest to find, but worth the effort. Whenever I need more than just a few board feet, I make the 3 hr drive, because the quality is that good.Good luck
Bob
Probably way too south for you but I get my hardwood from Berkshire Products in Sheffield, Ma. About a mile west of Rt 7
www.berkshireproducts.com/
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