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   KiddervilleAcres | Aug 02, 2009 05:55am | #1

   Neat!

   I should think they'd work well on curved parts, i.e. cabriole legs for instance.  Push/pull stroke?  Curious about the cutting action as in skewing the blade(s), etc. 

   I like using my drawknife and this looks like a nice addition for refining the drawknife work like a spokeshave but there's more?  I know a schoolteacher who has a drawer full of old fashoined pencil sharpener parts, lots of sharpener drums as she calls them.

   I gotta make/try one.  Thanks for posting it.

   Regards,

   Bob @ Kidderville Acres

   A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!

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   joinerswork | Aug 02, 2009 06:12am | #2

   Bob,

   What you want to do is put a small (1/4") offset on each end of the shaft thru the cutter-then, crank the handles as you draw the tool over the wood, spinning the cutter.  Slicker'n snot on a doorknob coming or going.  Those are doorknobs in the picture, right?

   Ray

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   Cedarslayer | Aug 02, 2009 08:45am | #3

   Drawer Pulls on all-thread holding it all together. This way it can easily be taken apart for soaking in vinegar to sharpen. Not that I expect it to dull any time soon. With 12 bladed to rotate between, these things hold up pretty well will all sorts of abuse when used to sharpen pencils.Bob

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   KiddervilleAcres | Aug 03, 2009 03:36am | #12

   Ray,

   I tried your suggestion but everything came out lookin like a pencil point????

   Sooooo, I made a handle like the Cedar guy only a bit longer without the knobs.  Rigged up dual chains on a tricycle, mounted my modified CedarSlayer Shave (Hmmm, nice ring to that, eh?) on the handlebars inside two pillow blocks.

   Tried shapin a leg and it caught, flew across the road and almost beaned my nextdoor neighbor!  The brake didn't work and the bearings got hot and let go.  The cutter cleared a 1 1/8" swath across the front lawn and Dan (nextdoor neighbor) now has the inverse of a Mohawk haircut.

   :-)

   Regards,Bob @ Kidderville Acres

   A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!

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   9619 | Aug 02, 2009 02:34pm | #4

   Bob,
   Thanks for suggesting that I check out the Pencil Shave. Very interesting. Extra cool. If the OP takes Ray's suggestion and puts an offset on the axle, and then reads Brent Beach on sharpening, and learns to put two back bevels and three secondary bevels on the cutters, this thing could cut like the wind. Also, a small motor would really enable this little beast to put a chamfer on Redheart. Note: as with a plane, this shave is best held at a 45 deg angle when in use. It is important that the correct pressure be used with this shave. I believe I can design and make a device that the shave will sit in, which has two springs which enable the correct pressure to be maintained.With the "pressure optimization feature", the motor, and a DVD on how to put the correct bevels on the cutters, I can sell this device for slightly less than Philip gets for one of his planes. It is important to remember that a tool maker needs to be properly recompensed for the time he puts into making a tool. I am talking to Tom Lie Nielsen about coming out with a bronze version next year. Already, Rob Lee is planning on making a version using the "waterproof" technology used in his last block plane. You remember. It was the plane that someone on Knots, probably Charles, said "looked like a suppository". NO ONE will mistake the new motorized, pressure-optimized, bronze pencil shave as a suppository.With tongue in cheek,
   MelMeasure your output in smiles per board foot. 

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   nazard | Aug 02, 2009 05:58pm | #5

   Mel,

   I'm certain you forgot a metaphor or two, but that's all right.  Moving the design of your new device forward, did you envision something that wood perhaps put a conical chamfer onto a piece of dowel? Like this > ?

   "...NO ONE will mistake the new motorized, pressure-optimized, bronze pencil shave as a suppository...."

   That is truly a comforting statement, but you need to assure people that they CAN and SHOULD use it for a suppository if they really want to.  That's the important thing.

   -Jerry

   <gr>

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   9619 | Aug 02, 2009 06:19pm | #6

   Jerry,
   You need to find more productive outlets for your creative energy.
   Reading my posts is holding you back. :-)
   Have fun.
   MelMeasure your output in smiles per board foot. 

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   nazard | Aug 02, 2009 07:11pm | #7

   Mel,

   Actually, I am looking for something to occupy time.  Last week I had a nasty accident (kickback) on my RAS.  My very first power tool mishap.  I did not cut off my left thumb, just turned it into hamburger.  I must say that my trek through Patient First > ER > Hand Specialist gives me a most heightened respect and appreciation for the people that dedicate their lives to that type of work.

   But, to subject, I do most enjoy the tangents upon which you embark in your Knotistic odysseys.  (Ouch, my thumb hurts....)

   -Jerry

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   9619 | Aug 02, 2009 07:32pm | #8

   Jerry,
   I am very sorry to hear of your accident. I had a Sears Craftsman RAS for a long while. I never could get is tuned up RIGHT. Once, while ripping (my only saw), it threw a big piece of wood straight back and into a cinder block wall. Anyone in the way would have been killed. I took the saw to Goodwill and made by goodbyes. Prior to that I tried to sell it, but someone asked me to check on line to see if anyone on Craig's List was selling them. I believe I found four, and the average selling price was $25. I decided to donate.So I asked by brother what he would recommend for a replacement. He has a Delta Unisaw from the first year it was made. He is a Delta Fanatic. He said to get a Delta saw. I got the Delta contractor's saw. Much less dangerous than the RAS, but nonetheless, I have trememdous respect for the beast. As time has moved on, I have been moving toward more hand tool use. I am sure I can do more damage with a machine than with a hand tool. Well, I wish you the best, and the speediest of recoveries. Try not to read too much here on Knots. It will fry your brain. I understand there are people here on Knots who know less than I do. That is a very scary thought. Also beware of any woodworking tools that look like suppositories !Stay in touch. Richmond is not that far from Burke, VA. If you feel the need to get away for a day, you are invited to a day at my place. I will heat up the grill and burn some burgers, and we can see who can tell the biggest woodworking lies. MelMeasure your output in smiles per board foot. 

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   joinerswork | Aug 02, 2009 07:38pm | #9

   Mel,

   Two springs to regulate the pressure, huh? 

   How about a flat bed that you can pass the stock across, and an infeed and outfeed roller, powered to push/pull the stock past the spinning cutter?

   Nah, that'd never work.

   Ray

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   9619 | Aug 02, 2009 07:42pm | #10

   Ray,
   Are you the guy who started Festool?
   MelMeasure your output in smiles per board foot. 

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   joinerswork | Aug 03, 2009 01:27am | #11

   Mel,

   Don't I wish.

   Ray

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   forestgirl | Aug 04, 2009 12:05am | #13

   That is very cool, thanks for posting.  I could see it as a primary shaping tool for rustic furniture, leaves just the right surface.  And a handy rough-shaping method for something soon to be refined.

   forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)