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   user-166708 | Jan 16, 2009 09:08pm | #1

   I use that quick change collet in the same router, different router lift.  It works great and gives me a little bit extension which I need.

   Bill

    

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   DustyGeorge | Jan 16, 2009 09:15pm | #2

   Thanks Bill,

   One of the reviewers on Amazon.com mentioned trouble with vibration.  Another mentioned dinging of the bit shafts.  Have you noticed anything along these lines?

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   notatexan | Jan 16, 2009 09:39pm | #3

   I don't have any experience with the collet but the longer the tool extends from the bearings and the higher the RPM, the more vibration.  Once the RPM goes above about 8000 the tools generally mut be dynamically balanced (requires high $$ equipment to measure) to minimize vibration.  Running an unbalanced cutter at 20000 RPM is dangerious and bad for the bearings.

   I wouldn't necessarily blame the extension on the vibration.  Could be loose bearings, too long a tool, too high RPM, or the whole thing is not dynamically balanced.  The easy fixes are a shorter cutter and slower RPM.

   Jim

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   user-166708 | Jan 17, 2009 12:57am | #4

   I have not experienced any vibration.  I really can't tell any difference in the performance, just a lot easier to use.

   I actually have two of them.  One on a router table with the PC 7518 and one in a hand held router which is a DeWalt that I use with a Leigh Mortise and Tenon machine.

   In the router table, I use panel raising bits that are 3 inches in diameter.  No vibration.

   Bill

    

   Edited 1/16/2009 5:00 pm ET by Bill Hightower

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   knuts | Jan 17, 2009 01:06am | #5

   Looks like the Eliminator Chuck. I've got 2. No problems. Don't install this with a lug wrench. I know one fellow who really tightened his up and caused wild vibration. Just follow the instructions; they've installed more than the rest of us!

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   [email protected] | Jan 17, 2009 06:30am | #6

   You might check for a Jacobs quick change collet on ebay.

   The Jacobs collet is one of the best I have seen, but none of the manufacturers adopted it, so they couldn't produce enough units to make it cost effective for them to keep producing it.

   They show up on ebay frequently for under $20, and are well worth the money.

   If you are mounting the motor in a second party lift, then it doesn't matter which PC router it is "made" for, because the only difference is the screws, and spacers used to space out the base plate so the collet fits. On a lift you don't have the base plate, so it doesn't matter.

   
   

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   Edited 1/16/2009 10:37 pm ET by Jigs-n-fixtures

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   knuts | Jan 17, 2009 04:20pm | #7

   Luck of the draw, I guess. My Jacobs wobbles like crazy!

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   daverichards | Jan 17, 2009 06:13pm | #8

   I had a Jacobs Power Collet. Nice idea but the thing wouldn't hold on to bits and when I decided to remove it, it wouldn't come off the router. I ended up suspending the router from the collet and driving the router off with a 1/2" brass rod running through the open collet.

   The Eliminator Chuck on the other hand has been flawless. I have several. I now have the XL version on my DW625 which is nice. It gives an additional 5/8" of reach with the router bit. I think the XL version is only available for the DW625, ELU 177, Festool, Fein and Freud routers though.