I’ve been searching the dust collector posts for where people bought the pipe for their dust collectors. I know in the past many have told us but I’m not finding them, they seem to be mixed in with all the other D/C issues. So please re-post where you got your pipe and which type you used. I’m interested in metal pipe, plastic pipe or flex hose sources. Places that will take smaller orders. I’m starting out with an 8″ main line and going smaller from there. Thank you, Edward So far I’ve found: http://www.blastgateco.com/Spiral-Pipe-and-Fittings.htm http://www.kbduct.com/ducting_parts_ductwork.shtml http://www.pennstateind.com/store/ductwork.html http://www.airhand.com/default.asp http://store.oneida-air.com/ductwork.aspx
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I bought some of my spiral pipe locally from WoodWerks, Columbus, Ohio, and also bought the 7" pipe I needed from Blast Gate Co., 7" wasn't stocked locally. Blast Gate's service was quick and reasonably priced, but be advised that they cut the 10' pipe to 5' for UPS shipping. That forces you to do more splicing if you have long runs, or to get the most out of a piece of pipe. I also bought part of my Y's and elbows from WoodWerks and some from Penn State. I was trying to get the best price of material and shipping so I shopped around. If you dig on the Penn State site they have a lot of good metal piping.
I have a Oneida Cyclone and 14 drops so the pipe did get expensive.
Bruce
I've yet to buy, but a couple of people have told me they like Bruce's Blastgate Company, which sells spiral pipe and flex hose in addition to blastgates.
forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
Edited 2/3/2009 10:15 pm by forestgirl
I bought directly from the Blastgate Company around Christmas. They are located on the other side of the state (3 hours) from me so i scheduled a day around the holidays to make the trip. I was expecting to have to buy pieces and parts from someone else because of what they have listed on the website but they have many more items in stock then what they show.
It's worth a telephone call to them. The guys were very helpful and i couldn't beat their prices after months of looking online. I'm guessing i saved about 40% over some of the usual cyclone dealer prices by going with Blastgate Company.
They were busy putting together a bunch of shipments when i picked up my stuff and they said they were happy to ship stuff out.
Mike
"----------the other side of the state-------."
Can you tell us which state this is?
Michigan is where The Blastgate Company is located. And oddly enough so am I. http://www.blastgateco.com/Spiral-Pipe-and-Fittings.htm
Thanks,
Edward
Edited 2/6/2009 2:18 pm ET by ef
I bought my bends and blast gates from the Blastgate Company along with some stiff flex pipe I needed to get around a beam. The spiral pipe I got from a local HVAC supplier. By buying it locally I was able to get 13 foot lengths so I had fewer joints. It also cost less once I figured in the shipping cost. Using the Blastgate Company saved money because they built the reducers I needed into the corners and ‘Y’s so I had to buy fewer parts and had fewer joints.
The parts I got from them were a heaver gauge steel than what other companies were offering and they make three own stuff so you can get anything you need.
Bob T.
You should fill out your profile so everyone knows where you're located. You may be able to find some suppliers close to home.
I got my pipe (7" spiral) and fittings (but not the blast gates) from a local sheet metal company that does HVAC. It was cheaper than the regular online suppliers.
Cheers,
Peter
Better life through Zoodles and poutine...
I got my metal pipe from http://www.ductincorporated.com/. I like it because it clamps together and can be easily changed. They also do custom fittings too. The downside is that they really aren't set up to sell directly to end users so you have to deal with getting them a check before they will ship. They are easy to work with though. I've ordered from them a couple times and been very satisfied.
My opinion only. Forget spiral pipr and just use PVC or straigt pipe in diameter you need. Copper would be great if you are rich!
I'm having trouble finding 8" plastic pipe, now you want me to find 8" copper pipe?!!? It would be pretty though. Of course then I'd have to keep it polished... Where do I find big (ie longer) elbows in plastic, you know "for better air flow"
Thanks, Edward
And plastic isn't all that cheap anymore, $32 for 10 foot of 6" at Lowes, I'm sure I could do better but..
Edited 2/6/2009 2:22 pm ET by ef
Edward,
I think I bought 6" snaplock 26 guage pipe in the $2.30 per foot range (if memory serves me right) from the Blastbate company. Their shop is located in Warren just north of Detroit. I walked in and a half hour later they had everything picked out of stock and I was driving away like I just won the daily lotto. (Nothing makes a Dutchman like me happier then finding a bargain... )
I looked at PVC and the fittings caused me some problems. What little cost savings there might have been with PVC i would have eaten up with time and frustration.
If you want a better idea on prices of certain items just let me know and I can dig out the invoice.
Mike
Ef, if you use pvc make your own bends. You can make a nice gentle bend out of a straight piece with heat. The Internet has lots of info on it. It is challenging to do but but better bends and cheaper.
Look for "WhiteCap". They sell S & D pipe and fittings that are lighter then schedule 40. Prices are very reasonable.
now you want me to find 8" copper pipe
Sorry.. I was just pulling your chain a bit.. And then some!
And plastic isn't all that cheap anymore, $32 for 10 foot of 6" at Lowes.....
More pulling yor chain.. Shop a few years earlier?
It is amazing how the prices of materials have increased. And no builders buying their inventory these days!
Just a thought off the top of my head.. Look at the black plastic stuff the big boxes sell for drains. Not sure what it is really called. Sewer pipe? Just stay away from that bendable stuff with deep recesses that collect everything the the recesses...
I've got a bunch of parts from MLCS (http://www.mlcswoodworking.com), but you can get many of the pipes, t's, and other fittings from Home Depot or Lowes. Look in the section where they sell air conditioning and vent 'stuff'. I will strongly recommend that you also buy a roll of the air duct tape, the type with metallic aluminum surface, not the el-cheapo duct tape that everyone uses. The stuff sticks like crazy Once you put it on, you need an act of congress to get it to let go.
SawdustSteve Long Island, NY (E of NYC)
Believe it no not, I bought some of the duct pipe at Home Depot in the Heating Department. It may not be the heaviest gauge metal, but I have had no problems so far. You just need to tape all the joints with metal foil tape.
I bought the fittings 45° Y's and other fitting at Penn State Industries. Penn State Industries has 2 lines of duct for dust collectors (heavy duty or economy). You can select whichever suits your budget.
What I do like over PVC pipe is the metal pipe is grounded (when you attach it directly to the dust collector & electrically ground it). With PVC there are still the two theories about static generation and the need to run a copper wire through the PVC to reduce the chance of static.
Personally, I am scared to death of fire in my shop (a separate building from the house). And I take every precaution I can to prevent fires.
My dust collector is a 3 HP Dust Gorilla from Oneida Air Systems. I love it and it has all the power I need. I have had no problem with the pipe collapsing
I think either Grizzly, Penn State Industries, or Oneida has a free design service to help you with the layout of the ductwork.
I recently set up my shop for a 2hp cyclone using standard HVAC purchased from a local HVAC sheet metal shop. 14' of 7" and 55' of 6" pipe, wyes (air handling wyes), reducers, elbows, box of screws and 2-rolls of metal tape to support 8 blast gates cost me $365.00. Blast gates costs another $70.00 I already had a variety of flex hose from my previous shop.
You use a lot of tape to seal all of the joints but when it is finished it performs as well as my previous system which was engineered and supplied by Oneida. I also seal the joints with silicon where the blast gates join the metal duct work. The issue is not so much better, cleaner air flow but to reduce the noise created from the air being drawn through the joints when the blast gates are closed.
If you want to use thin wall PVC, deal with a plumbing supply or commercial irrigation company. The box stores will not have what you need. Fire from static discharge in PVC pipe is one of those urban myths that just won't go away. Fire in the DC is almost always the result of a hot object being drawn into the system or a piece of metal debris striking a metal impeller creating a spark sufficient to cause explosive combustion.
Doug
Edited 2/7/2009 10:21 am ET by DougGF
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