Hi,
I am trying my hand a veneering, nothing too complex to start. I am veneering four panels approximately 12″ x 17″, I am using 3/4″ Russian birch ply. for a substrate and am veneering one side with an ash burl, and the reverse with cherry. I have discovered I will need to use a veneer softener, and am wondering if anyone has any suggestions as to which brand to use.
Also, and pointers would be appreciated (to help prevent the typical “rookie” mistakes. (I am using a vacuum bag, one with a hand pump)
Thanks in advance for your help.
Brent
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One place with a lot of info, and I mean a LOT, is http://www.joewoodworker.com/ . Joe also has all the veneer and veneering supplies, including softner. Joe has always been helpful when I have purchased from him and the service and products are great and shipped quick.
Bruce
This is the standard formula more or less that's been around for many years. Softening Solution2 parts white or yellow glue3 parts water (I use distilled)1 part glycerin you can find this at any drug store or larger food store.1 part denatured alcoholmix together, I use a trigger bottle or a garden sprayer depending on size and volumn. You can brush it, roll it. Both sides.
Sandwich news paper, fiberglass window screen, veneer, screen, newspaper paper, finish your stack off continuing this method. Weigh down, change the papers several times the first day, then change daily until dry.
Depending on the veneer it should remain flat for some time. I have some crotch walnut I did in 1998 its still flat.best of luckRon in Peabody
When I built this walnut burl veneer credenza (https://www.finewoodworking.com/item/18676/walnut-tv-credenza) I used softener from Joe Woodworker. I followed the instructions to the letter and it worked very well, which gave me flat veneer with no brittleness at all. I also used cold press dark veneering glue from Joe. That glue is very thick so you get no mess and dries dark brown so any small holes in my dark veneer got filled with the right coloured glue.
My understanding is that cold press veneer glue requires a lot less "clamping" pressure than other PVA glues to work properly so it is a better choice in a vacuum bag.
Brent,
There is a product called GF 20 that also works very well. I am unsure of the supplier name, but perhaps another reader can help.
Tom.
I use the stuff from http://www.pro-glue.com and for glue i use unibond from vacuum pressing systems. The other thing I do when using burl veneer is to 2 ply the veneer which is gluing a backer veneer to burl. Go to http://www.vacupress.com and do a search of the forum for 2 ply. It is a great technique and really makes burls much easier to work with. There is also some great discussion on how to flatten veneers using veneer softener and a vacuum bag.
Tom
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Thanks everyone for the help. I ended up using the softener from Pro Glue, mainly because it was available today. The veneer is in the vacuum bag, and I am doing all I can to hold off until the morning to take a look at the veneer (something about patience). I hope it all comes out flat and the rest of this project goes smoothly. I will post pictures when I can.Thanks again to everyone who has replied.Brenthttp://www.brentcdaniell.com
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