found these little gems at a flea market
stanley scraper # 81, sole in great condition, blade pretty rough but body intact and clean
stanley shoulder? plane, great condition no number or date, made in england
stanley spokeshave #151, great condition except blade
any info re age, etc and sharpening/usage info especially the scraper would be appreciated
hazard a guess on values?
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The little plane is a 75 bull nose. I have one, but have never found a good use for it. Anyone?
I like the 75 set fine as an easy palm tool for removing arris and getting into awkward corners.
hey guys thanks for the info, i pick few fleamarket finds a couple of times a year with an eye to using them in my shop, no collector here
tomorrow my elderly #5 maybe planing an old door tofit or that crappy old #85 mybe trimming an old doorstop
but on the otherhand i also use fine older tools in my cabinet shop
20 bucks for that little lot? plus an hour or two with a watrerstone
how can you go wrong?
my question still stands tho, is there any difference between a "sweetheart"plane and the rest? other than the blade stamp
"my question still stands tho, is there any difference between a "sweetheart"plane and the rest? other than the blade stamp"
No, they are pretty much the same plane. There are some collectors out there who like the SweetHart logos and will hunt for them specifically but no real difference other than that. Another reason people look for SweetHart's is because it was during this time where some people feel Stanley was making their best planes so in order to get a good quality plane "just look for a SweetHart plane."
I like the 75 set fine as an easy palm tool for removing arris and getting into awkward corners.
Mufti
I'd like to see a picture of that! You must have special palms - the #75 has got to be one of the most uncomfortable planes ever to hold. The blade sticks up in just the wrong place. I refuse to believe that anyone actually uses one.
Regards from Perth
Derek
Steve,
The #81 scraper is a handy little guy. They go on e-bay anywhere from $25 to about $75 (in pristine condition). Replacement blades are easy to come by; Kunz makes two (I believe) that fit. Two different thicknesses IIRC. I got a couple of the thicker ones at Rockler. I'm sure other WW'ing store would have them as well. Sharpening them is a ritual; read about it on line or in any of a blue jillion different books, articles, etc.
If the old blade is marked "Stanley" in any way, shape or form; stash it away and use only the replacement. The old blades in decent shape are starting to have a value all by themselves.
The 151 spokeshave is common as dirt but are also very handy in the shop.
Echo the "paper weight" opinion on the #75.
Nice find providing you didn't break your piggy bank!! LOL
Regards,
Mack
"WISH IN ONE HAND, S--T IN THE OTHER AND SEE WHICH FILLS UP FIRST"
all the blades are marked stanley, made in canada except the paperweight #75, it was amde in england, the blades all got a little dressup today, no grinding required, just ahve to perfect the scraper a little
all three seem to work really well, the "paperweight" seems great at paring small tenons, surely its intended purpose
break the bank? i thought 20 bucks for the lot was a good deal!!
Edited 3/10/2008 8:40 pm ET by steve
steve,
You should be ashamed of yourself! Just kidding, sounds like a great deal.
Enjoy,Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
sure i'm ashamed!!, i like picking little finds like these, i clean em up and put them to use
im a pro carpenter as well as a hobby woodworker, and in my regular working tool bag are a couple of vintage handplanes for scribing and trimming doors
what makes a stanley plane a "sweetheart plane" anyone?, ive seen this term a few times and have seen the heart on the blade in some fleamarkets with anj appropiate price but it would seem that merely changing the blade would create this designation
what other ifferences are there?
SweetHart planes are planes with a little heart on the blade. Back in the day there was president of Stanley Works whose last name was Hart. They decided to commemorate him by putting that logo on their blades for a few years. Stanley also did this with the name Bailey on the bed. Leonard Bailey is the person who invented the frog mechanism on Stanley bench planes that has been copied by countless other manufacturers. There's' a story behind Leonard Bailey and Stanley but I'm not sure how it exactly goes (something with a lawsuit and Bailey starting his own tool company and so forth but not my area of expertise).
The value of the tools are about $50-80 total. The No 81 scraper is worth more than the $20.00 you paid for all three.
Steve:
To add to what has been said, the "sweetheart" logo on a Stanley dates it to somewhere between 1921 and 1936, or so we are told. Here is a ling to a handy web site with a guide to dating Stanley planes acording to various characteristics:
http://www.hansbrunnertools.gil.com.au/Stanley%20by%20numbers/StanleyDatingBenchPlanes.htm
Cheers!
Joe
Steve,
Yeah! Twenty bucks--you scored very well! Tons of very good info on Stanley tools on this web site http://www.supertool.com/stanleyBG
Regards,
Mack"WISH IN ONE HAND, S--T IN THE OTHER AND SEE WHICH FILLS UP FIRST"
There's an article on souping up a spokeshave by Brian Boggs in Fine Woodworking #158:
http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworking/SkillsAndTechniques/SkillsAndTechniquesPDF.aspx?id=2803
And, Hock Tools makes an excellent replacement blade for the 151:
http://www.hocktools.com
I did most of the steps of rehabbing a 151 as described in the article, plus replaced the blade with a Hock and ended up with a great spokeshave.
Jeff L
Jeff,
Thanks for the info. I'm shaping cabriole legs with a 6" drawknife as I don't have a working spokeshave but do have an old #151 in need of rehabbing.
I'll have to check into getting a Hock blade for it.
Thanks again,Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
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