Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. I have waited for quite a while and now am ready to purchase the sawstop. So here is the question: local dealers (Massachusetts) are charging between 400 and 500 to deliver the saw to the house. What shortcuts are there (if any) to get around this?
And secondly, once the saw is in my driveway, how have you all got the saw into your basement? My thought is a heavy duty appliance dolly and then winch it down the bulkhead stairs? Realistic? Thanks for the help. PMM
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pmmatty, you may be able to beat the $300 to $400, charge if you can have it dropped at a business (if you have a shop you do a lot of business with). I think your idea of a dolly and come along, should work fine, or a couple of friends & some suds's as pay. Best of luck with your new toy!!. garyowen
where in mass are you? I'm near boston
Look ma, no jigs!!!
That got me to web search. Up here in BC, the price for a 5hp, 1 ph with a 52" fence and table is $4010CDN. Out the door at the local dealer. Delivery to the house is via local courier with lift gate. I live 5 miles from the store and the price is about $60.00.
If I went to buy and pick up WA state (I live on the border) the price is $3570 PLUS shipping charge to WA of $325. Total $3895USD. There is no duty on it.
So it seems that the pricing from Sawstop is about equal (the CDN and USD are more or less equal). Depending on how far you live from the store, it appears that you may be getting gouged for the final delivery. Perhaps it would be to your advantage to ask for a price out the door and arrange for the delivery with a local courier.
Good luck on getting it into a basement. It's about 700 pounds.
Cheers,
Peter
Better life through Zoodles and poutine...
I got mine a few months ago, and the shipment was a lot less (although they probably made up for it with the underlying price.) I was quoted shipment cost of about $100 from the store. I spent some time trying to figure out which was the cheapest source (price vs. different sales taxes vs. different delivery costs. In the end I paid about $50 more than the lowest price, since the place I bought it from was able to move the saw from my driveway into my garage. The cheap source would have required me to get it off the lift gate, which wasn't going to happen.
In terms of moving it to a basement, there are a number of postings on various clever ways to move it. I'm lucky in that I have a storm door in my backyard that leads down about 6 steps into my basement. I uncrated it and took off the wings and the housing. The friendly customer service person at Sawstop cheerfully noted that doing this reduces the weight by about 200lbs. Only 450 left to go. Anyway, I strapped the saw to a hand truck, rolled it around the house and then slid it down two 2x8s that I lay over the steps. Oh, and I got 3 other guys to help. I could have further reduced the weight by taking the top off, but didn't want to do that since I didn't trust myself to put it back on correctly. When planning, you need to add in another hour or for the move, since every time you move the saw a foot there is a lively discussion on the best way to do it.
A few tips. First, it is very well packaged, so it takes a while to take apart the crate and disconnect the saw from the pallet. I did this over a few evenings. Also note that there are some blocks screwed to the pallet which prevent you from sliding the saw. I rocked it a bit, and finally ripped out one of the blocks, but it took some effort. Once you can slide the saw to the edge of the pallet, you can get one edge on some blocks the height of the pallet, then 2 guys can tip the saw slightly while a third pulls out the pallet and positions the hand truck. (Someone in this forum came up with a brilliant idea of building a frame and then using clamps to slowly raise and lower the saw, which is definitely more elegant.) Once the cabinet is where you want it, the assembly of the fence and the wiring was straightforward.
My saw was perfectly aligned out of the box, so I haven't had to do anything, which makes me very happy I left the table on. I thought I could improve the way the insert lay, and then spent about 30 minutes trying to get it back to the way it came. It's a joy to use. My only regret is that it takes away my good excuse for poor craftsmanship.
Good luck!
PG, unless I missed someone else's bright idea, I think the clamp/frame arrangement came from a link to WWA that I posted awhile back. An ingenious "think outside the box" approach!
I've saved your post to my Favorites, waiting for the day when I get a SawStop!
forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
Edited 4/15/2008 10:00 pm by forestgirl
That's exactly what I was referring to, thanks for posting the link. I thought it was a great idea, especially since it means you don't have to take everything apart, but since I also had to get the saw down some stairs it would have been only a partial solution.
I thought you just scored a great deal on a Unisaw?
"I thought you just scored a great deal on a Unisaw?" I did recently acquire a pre-owned Unisaw, but with finances improving, getting a SawStop, my first choice, is looking possible within a year. If I can afford one, it's stupid not to have one.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
SawStop controls its pricing. In Denver, I paid the MSRP + $300.00. No negotiations... so I went to the dealer that had the new ICS Saw in stock. I have a truck so the retailer (toolking) loaded it for me.
Drove it to my house, with 4 other young guys!
Used my engine hoist to get it off the back of my truck
It took all 4 guys to get the saw off the pallet and placed on to the SawStop mobile base
$4,200 for the saw and mobile base, $30 for lunch and a small fortune for my gas.
This saw is heavy and it will do a lot of damage if it gets away from you. Don't be another Darwin Award. My advice -
Step 1: Rent a truck with a liftgate and rent a pallet jack -or- rent or buy an engine hoist. Either way, you'll be able to unload it. I'd guess you'll be looking at $30 to $60
Step 2: Hire a rigging company to get it in to your basement. It would take a pro about 15 minutes, by himself/herself, to get it in to your basement. Best of all, the'll be insured! I'd guess you'll be looking at $100 to $200. Look in the phone book for "equipment movers" and try a "piano mover" or two.
The delivery price the OP speaks of is the cost of the sawstop from Sawstop to the dealer. In NC Woodcraft charges $400 on top of the saw which does not include fence....go figure. Kept me from buying one.
I bought mine through Woodcraft. They delivered it for free. And, they put it on the mobile base. I did have to put it together and set it up, but that was a piece of cake with the detailed manual.
Does their price include the SawStop shipping cost that they collect from the dealer? The current SawStop shipping price to Massachusetts is $550.00 which is automatically added to the cost of the saw by the dealer. My dealer, Eagle Tools in Los Angeles, California only charged me $50 to deliver the saw to my house with liftgate service.
We just received our saw last week. Came by Federal Express tractor trailer. He put it right inside the building. No stairsI'm in Peabody if you want the tour.
500? Holy crap. Like somebody said, find a business with a loading dock: might be a whole lot cheaper.
Why not call a local moving company and see what it would cost for them to pick up the saw at some local depot (Mfg. ships to) and THEY put the saw in your basement? May cost less or a bit more? I have no idea.. but worth a call or two?
No hard work or danger for you.. As in the saw and going down the steps!
Edited 4/16/2008 9:50 am by WillGeorge
I just had one delivered to the basement from the local Woodcraft. The additional fee for lift gate service from sawstop was $150 if I had it shipped direct. A local mover picked it up at Woodcraft and put it in the basement, on the mobile base for $192. The net cost to me was $42 and no sore back.
Edited 4/17/2008 5:49 pm ET by Sawdust9
Brilliant!
I didn't buy mine at WoodCraft because all they said they would do was help me load it on a truck if I rented one. Your WoodCraft manager is a smart person.
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