This is a question to Steve Schoene for my post of May 10 Re: table by Steve Latta.
The Shellac: should I use Orange shellac flakes or Zinsser Bulls Eye Shellac.
Which is better for my project.
Jack
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Zinsser Bulls Eye Shellac DE-WAKED is about as good as you can get if you do not mix your own!
In general I prefer the flakes because you know how fresh the liquid shellac is. There are also a wider range of color variations. And, if you want dewaxed shellac, either for slightly greater clarity or if there is a possibility of putting a waterborne finish or varnish containing polyurethane over it, then only the Seal Coat is dewaxed, and Seal Coat isn't an orange shellac, it's a blonde.
The shelf life of the liquid shellac you mix your self is shorter than that of the Zinsser products which have some processing that lengthens the time before it becomes unusable, but you still never quite know how it has been treated between manufacture and store shelf. I use Seal Coat quite a bit, but for really critical projects I mix up shellac from flakes.
it's a blonde
That's good, they have more fun right, especially if they're dewaxed!
Regards,
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Edited 5/13/2008 7:45 am ET by KiddervilleAcres
HAHAHA! Bob, like me, you have TOO much time on your hands!
Michael
ooooo, a shellac thread. Let me make some popcorn.
Don't forget to shellac them popcorns for ya eat em, dewaxed of course.
Regards,
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
I'll flood it on.
Waxed may be better -- particularly if one is somewhat irregular... And if you go with orange shellac, well, then you get good color to boot!
Hmmmm, I'll have to try that.
They say orange brings out the highlights in your walnut and I do like garnet on my cherry sometimes. Would you recommend blonde on yur crotch beech?
Perhaps with a vigorously rubbed French polish?
Regards,Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
You'd better cover the childrens' eyes after THAT post.
I meant birch crotch.
I had some cut last week and want to use them for splayed legs on a bench and was wondering if I should shellac 'em with blondes or oranges, waxed or dewaxed. I don't have any walnut, just cherry ones.
I'm thinking of a nice cherry slab on a couple of birch crotches for splayed legs, natural edges and all. Maybe a blonde on the birch crotches and garnet on the cherry?
I can show you some pics if ya want.
Regards,
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Edited 5/13/2008 3:00 pm ET by KiddervilleAcres
Well iffn you come across any extry blondes, send 'em this way.
Sounds good to me, but I recommend a coarse steel wool for the french polish part.
gee, and i was wondering why women feel alienated around here.
i was hoping to learn something about shellac.thanks guys.vivian
Well, you know what they say: "Boys will be boys." For shellac info, this is the thread you want:
Shellac
Seriously, though, there's tons of info regarding shellac on this site, not just on the forum. Click search, enter "Shellac", and away you go. I will offer one caveat: there is a certain someone here that has developed his own methodology concerning shellac, and some of his information is, well, bogus. Now, I can't tell you his name, but if you can "parlez vous francais" you won't be far off the mark.
Edited 5/13/2008 10:05 pm ET by pzaxtl
Edited 5/13/2008 10:06 pm ET by pzaxtl
Merci beaucoup!
Je vous prie d’agréer, Monsieur, l’expression de mes sentiments les meilleurs,
Vivian
PS thanks to iGoogle translator and not my own skills, combien je regrette!
Pretty impressive, google or not! I took French for two years in high school. I would have continued taking French, except that the teacher insisted on calling us by our "French" names, and being that I was the only guy in the class and my name is Michael -- well, a weeks worth of being called "Michelle" did me in.
Thanks for the chuckle.
Roberta,Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Well, Roberta, it could be that you and I are sisters!
(...wondering if this is the post that's gonna get me reported for an abuse? Quick! somebody hide me!)
Edited 5/15/2008 4:16 pm ET by pzaxtl
Quick, Michael, crawl under my keyboard. They'll never find you there. If you hear a bunch of banging, it's nothing to worry about. It's just me typing eighty words a minute.
All,
It is unfortunate that this forum for information on shellac has been used in poor taste. I hope that the offending party will consider this a precursor to a report of abuse. This forum is intended as a paid resource and not a chat room for inuendo.
ALL,
Please allow me to offer my sincerest apologizes for any offense that I may have conveyed. At my age I should know better and I assure you it will NOT happen again,
Regards,
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Edited 5/15/2008 1:12 pm ET by KiddervilleAcres
Edited 5/15/2008 1:18 pm ET by KiddervilleAcres
ALL of us use the forum. If people play with words then that's a human response. We're not playing police here, so when someone gets offended, and I know of no human exchange where that never occurs, an apology comes along. If you're looking for perfection, I'm afraid you're going to be disappointed.
Perhaps... but this forum is also about much more than just shellac, or even woodworking. It is also about community, camraderie and the free exchange of ideas, opinions and information. I love this forum! I renew my subscription every year -- not just for the information, which is often invaluable, but also for the friends I've made here. Personally, I enjoy the wisecracks and the humor of some posts and posters as much as I do learning to hone my skills. Sorry if I'm the one causing you the offense (you weren't specific in your citation) but, then again, I'm bound to offend someone, somewhere, sometime -- kinda hard not to, being human and all. Of course, it may be that you take things here WAY too seriously -- just a thought.
Edited 5/15/2008 2:15 pm ET by pzaxtl
Thanks for your response. I appreciate your recognition and support.
Bet "youknowwho" has a good recipe.
it's a blonde
That's good, they have more fun right, especially if they're dewaxed!
Bob,
Only if you take her by the radial arm and go for dinner and dancing.
Paul
Paul,
Tsk, tsk.
Spring is in the air fur shur, fur shur!
Regards,Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Steve ! Thanks for your reply, but now you go me more confused, this is the the biggest project I have ever under taken, not in size but in time I have spent on it, and I want it to turn the very best I can you see I am 77 and my arthritis has been bothering me so badly that I don't know how much longer I can continue working in the shop, but I love it.
So I looking for the best advice I can get.
Thanks Jack
I would go to http://www.homesteadfinishing.com look at the shellac choices and use dewaxed flakes, in either dark or garnet shades. My preference for mahogany is for a bit less orange that you get with orange shellac.
Hi Folks,
This discussion is not going in a very productive direction and has generated complaints so I’m shutting it down.
Gina
FineWoodworking.com
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