I have inherited a Delta table saw (8″), Delta drill press (floor model), and a Delta scroll saw which I am refurbishing since they have been sitting in a garage unused for a long time. They have no model or serial numbers that I can find. However the heavy cast iron bases have Delta and numbers cast into them. The table saw has castings NCS 118 and NCS 20, the drill press has castings DP 204, DP 220 and DP280, and the scroll saw NSS 201 and NSS 238. If I need parts I’m sure model numbers would help. Also, I have no idea what the scroll saw gear box lubricant is and how much I should put in. The current Delta e-mail source is of no help. I suspect these tools were sold long before the current Delta folks were old enuf to work. I’d appreciate your advice.
BillK
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First try out oldwwmachines.com for copies of machine manuals, out of date catalogues, etc. You can use the part #'s and schemi diagrams for reference when talking to Delta reps.
For oil bath gear box, I've used automatic transmission fluid with good results, but the info in the manual would have more specific specifications,
Hope that get's you off to a good start
GC
By any chance is that scroll saw 24" deep, on a flare-leg stand? 4-speed, or variable (crank in the front)? OK, I'll take it. Seriously, if that's what it is, that model, or some variation on it, has been in production almost as long as the Unisaw, and was only discontinued recently (10 years or so, I'm told), so parts, books, etc. are all over the place. Search ebay for "Delta scroll saw", and there's usually at least one listed. Might help in identifying (oldwwmachines.com is excellent, too, as mentioned) and determining value. Here's one now:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1922697754
Here's a variable speed unit (bidding closed):
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2072820984
I'm waiting 'till one pops up in my neck of the woods.
Be seeing you...
Bill... Let's see if we can ID the drill press. Looking at the belt guide... Is it a two piece cast unit (short front piece and long back piece) or a sheet metal unit? Does the motor sit on a plate with two rods facing front to adjust the tension on the belt?? Is the main drill body casting sort of form-fitting or is it a slab-sided casting??
If it has a cast belt guard, motor mount as described and a 'form-fitting' body then it is an 'old-style drill press. I assume it is a 14" model (7" from center of drill chuck to column). It came in both bench and floor mounted style, the difference being the column height.
I've got parts lists for many of the Delta pieces. No listing however for an 8" table saw! Scroll saw info later........
SawdustSteve Long Island, NY
The 8" saw is most likely from Delta's Homecraft line. I had one for my first saw, and I still think it was a good saw.
I'm thinking the tools are probably from the 1930's, preceeding the Homecraft line. They did have an 8" tilting table saw back then, (I've got a 10" tilting Delta) Two things stick out, 1st, the word "DELTA" cast on the pieces, prevelant during that time, also, no metal tags for serial/model number. Old Delta machines had only fragile decals that could have been obliterated or painted over.
GC
Ahh, tilting table. That would definetly be something other than Homecraft. I have used a 10" TT, and it was a good saw,until I had to bevel rip.
I think I may have a delta drill press similar to yours. I know that mine was made some time in the 1930's, but not much more than that as delta has no records of machines made that early. heres a copy of an old 1936 delta catalogue that might have some info you could use.
Bill,
I think you will be surprised at how much help Delta Customer Service can give you. Give them a call at 800-223-7278. Before you call though collect all the info you can off each piece. Look for specification plates and have things like serial #'S, amp ratings, style# or anything else you may find on the plate or the machine. There are a couple of Delta factory guys that hang out at another forum and it never ceases to amaze me the info that they can come up with.
Dave.
Re your note to me re old Delta tools (12-8), what is the "other forum" where "a couple of Delta factory guys hang out"? Thanks very much for your reply to my original question.
Billk
Bill, the address is http://www.forums.woodnet.net
The guys go by the user names of Delta007 and Rock2car. I think, don't quote me though, that one of them is in tech support and I'm not sure about the other. These guys are very helpful as long as you act like a gentleman and don't rant at them. They usually will have an answer for any question you may have or they will steer you in the right direction. When they participate in the forum remember that they are not working for Delta when on the forum, but are fellow forum members who happen to work for Delta. Hope I was of some help.
Dave.
Thanks for the lead re old Delta tools. I'll see what I can get there. Billk
Bill;
Just a heads-up about the Woodnet forum. They are making some changes and it will be down Wednesday and Thursday. The powers that be claim it should be back online by Friday, maybe even Thursday PM.
Dave.
Thanks, Dave.
Billk
Just for a FYI Rock2car and Delta oo7 are both on vacation this week soo maybe you should wait til next week to post them over at woodnet, also there real nice guys and IM sure they will help you if they can....
ok: You really have me stumped??? what does your post to me have to do with old Delta power tools????????? LOL..<G>...
I've since removed that message. as after some scrutiny it did seem a bit hard to follow. The gist of it was that if this guy intended to lay granite on either the table saw ,drill press or even some new kitchen counters like someone else on the Knots BB ,that I would recommend a backer board. I think the older Delta manuals would have spec'ed a mortar bed, but all things considered a backer board would be a better choice. Wouldn't you agree?
It baffles me why he'd want to do that considering the realative superiority of cast iron, but you know these old tool fanatics... it's all granite "this" and granite "that" to these guys.
Honestly, it makes more sense to use granite in the kitchen and cast iron in the shop rather than the other way around. I just answered another strange question about some Delta cast iron counter tops in some other thread.
Who knows?
Edited 12/12/2002 2:35:17 AM ET by FOURQUARTER
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John, the original post is from 2002. I don't know if Bill still reads the forum, or not.
Before attempting to fire up your scroll saw, I'd suggest checking the lubricant in the front housing. I believe it is simply light machine/motor oil. But, if it was contaminated or dirty, and has solidified or thickened, you might break parts by trying to run it as-is.
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