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   roc | Sep 15, 2009 10:35pm | #1

   Thanks ! I have seen this in a less finished version in the past. I think it is the same guy.

   I just love science over silly opinions.

   I have dismissed paper on glass for myself. If glued the glue makes lumps when pealing up and putting on fresh. If not glued just wetted and placed on the glass it gets kind of tedious dealing with all the various grit/papers drying and curling up around when I am finished sharpening. Not flush enough to just throw away every sharpening session which can be a few sessions a day when I am on a roll.

   The coarser grits seem to require being glued and used dry, the blue abrasive cuts way faster but isn't happy in water, still breaks down fast enough when flattening/preparing new blades etc requires more than one sheet. I sharpen in the kitchen where the water is and Queenmasteroftheuniverseandbabybunnytrainer would not tolerate smelly old spray glue in her kitchen so now I am doing coarse work in the shop and fine upstairs in the kitchen. At least I will get plenty of stair running. That's a good thing. (?)

   If/when dry I just put back in a file folder for that grit in a plastic file box that I have for the purpose. I use all the grits for polishing projects which are usually softer than a plane iron. So I have spent some time with this sharpening method.

   I have been burning for a microscope such as he has. For just a scope not computer linked I was looking at about $400 to 600. Could use for other "Nerd" stuff so will still get one some day.

   What I really want is one of the old antique all brass dudes but not practical for looking at thicker stuff it seems.

   http://www.arsmachina.com/s-leitz1499.htm

   Water stones, diamond plates, veritas jig and keep em flat works best for me.

   Glad he did this work though. Nerds rule dude.

   PS: QX3 microscope = $140 hmmmm $30 shipping ( silly rabbits ! )
   sillll would be fun to have and cheeeep.

   Hmmmm

   roc

   Give me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe. Abraham Lincoln ( 54° shaves )

   Edited 9/15/2009 3:38 pm by roc

   
   

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   Edited 9/15/2009 3:55 pm by roc

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   dloc | Sep 16, 2009 04:45am | #5

   The QX3/5 microscope is actually a pretty decent microscope that is adictive. Remove the body and use it as a hand-held magnifier. See: http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/optics/intelplay/index.html, <!----><!----><!---->

   http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/index.html, http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/optics/intelplay/intelanatomy.html

   Look at cutting edges, do wood ID, examine youir sand ing belts - 1001 uses in the shop. Got mine from a thrift shop for $10. They also show up on E-bay.

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   roc | Sep 16, 2009 05:52am | #6

   Thanks. THAT 's where I had seen it before, . . . as a handheld thing. Sounded familiar but didn't look familiar. Today is the first time I had seen the blue stand.rocGive me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe. Abraham Lincoln ( 54° shaves )

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   philip | Sep 17, 2009 11:04am | #7

   Roc, old scone,
   He might be a nerd, but when he makes statements like "If you can't grind you can't sharpen" if is right on the ball.
   I think that a lot of folk are trying to sharpen/hone by grinding ie removing material away from the edge before getting to the edge-as in "honeing" the entire bevel instead of grinding at one angle and honeing at a slightly greater angle. No wonder it all takes so much time and dozens of grit grades....
   Philip Marcou

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   BrentD | Sep 17, 2009 08:59pm | #8

   Doesn't seem to be a nerd to me.  Unless "nerd" means to be good at something.  He knows what he is doing and I sure appreciate that webpage. 

    

   Brent

    

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   philip | Sep 17, 2009 11:32pm | #10

   "Doesn't seem to be a nerd to me. "
   Me neither-you haven't read my post properly....I was replying to Roc anyway....Philip Marcou

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   BrentD | Sep 18, 2009 01:01am | #12

   philip, 

   I was replying more to the title of the thread than anything else. 

   Brent

    

    

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   Buster2000 | Sep 17, 2009 09:19pm | #9

   Philip,

   How much is slight?

   I did this to a set of bench chisels, I think they were ground at 25 and I honed at around 30...  They work well so I've just kept it up.

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   philip | Sep 17, 2009 11:37pm | #11

   Buster,
   That is exactly what I mean-5 degrees is plenty and what has been recommended for years. Stanley and Record even stamped it on their blades at one stage. In fact it seems to come naturally: if you place a blade ground at 25 degrees with bevel flat on the stone then raise it slightly that will be about 5 degrees-assuming the usual sort of bench /height relationship.Philip Marcou

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   Napie | Sep 15, 2009 11:05pm | #2

   Cheap 6” high speed grinder with a 60 grit white wheel, one hard white Arkansas oil stone, WD-40 for a lube and a couple oil slip stones for the carving tools.   That is it for me, I prefer simple.

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   IMERC | Sep 15, 2009 11:22pm | #4

   belt sander...

   240 grit... 

   Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

   WOW!!! What a Ride!

   Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

    

   "Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"

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   Eef | Sep 15, 2009 11:12pm | #3

   imerc,

   very interesting. thanks for the info. you have probably set the stage for yet another intense sharpening discussion. time to crack a beer, sit back and enjoy the show!
   eef