Well I walked into the Wood craft store in Cincinnati last week to just kill some time. I made the mistake of spending to much time looking at all those nice new machines they had on display. To make a long story short, I ended up buying a new delta Unisaw. I had planned on buying the big Sawstop, but I just couldn’t justify the price difference. I loved using the Sawstop when I was back in school. But when push came to shove the Delta was the better deal and machine for the money.
They are delivering my new toys on Tuesday so we’ll put it together and see how it does.
Has anyone taken delivery on one of the new Unisaw’s yet. I was wondering if there are any surprises’ to be looking for when putting it together?
Taigert
Edited 6/14/2009 4:20 am ET by Taigert
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The rail system is pretty straightforward. The rails are surprisingly light. the mitre gauge to blade was dead on and didn't need any adjustment. Other then the normal tweaking after assembly things went smoothly.
I don't own the saw but I happened to be around when my local woodcraft was setting one up. Looks great with a lot of nice little details and I will be buying one once I get my shop better organized.
I will be anxious to hear how you like it. There has been lots of discussion but to my knowledge no one on the site has actually bought one. Domer
There have been a few comments by owners on other sites which generally state the saw is everything Delta says it is. But of course its like buying a new car they are all great for the first few months.
My biggest problem is deciding how I will position it and if I need to add a new circuit for a new location. I decided to go for a 36" fence as I have never come close to uses the 52" fence I currently have and this gives me more opportunity to rearrange everything. I don't think I will be ordering until July so that will give me a chance to hear from other owners maybe after the euphoria of a new saw wears off a little
I also would like to here your comments on the saw once you get a chance to use it a bit, it sure looks nice and I like what I have read about it, there is allot of things totally different from any other cabinet saw from what I have seen, I haven't had a chance to see one in person yet. I am sure you will enjoy using it. What are you using for a table saw now?
Mike
Mike,
We just recently moved from Seattle to SE Indiana, when we were getting prices for moving we found out that they charge by the hundred weight. So my old Grizzly ended up being sold. For what it would cost to move, it wasn't worth moving it. Basically all my big tools were sold, the nice part is I'm ending up with a nice new shop.
From what Dennis at Woodcraft said I'm the first one to get the new Unisaw in this area. I just hope they have all the bugs worked out of it. He gave me a DVD on how to put it together. It all looks pretty straight forward. I'll just need a extra body to help with the cast iron wing though. That looks like it takes three people to do, two holding it in position and one body below bolting it together.
On top of that I picked up a 12" Shop Fox Jointer, Delta 13" Planer, Jet 22/44 Osc. Drum sander, Jet Mortiser, Jet Spindle Sander, Rikon 14" Bandsaw and a 3HP Powermatic DC unit. Between Woodcraft and Edward B Mueller Mach. I was able to get some amazing deals on everything.
So it will be a busy week getting the new shop set up. At least I will be able to get back to work on some jobs that are on the books waiting to get done. Time to start bringing some money back in.
Taigert
It would be interesting to be able to start all over again with the large equipment, there would be a few changes in my shop, the sander you speak of is on my wish list, Jet is kind of hard to find up here (not impossible though), but I have been looking at the Delta 18" x 36" Drum Sander. I think right now would be a good time to be in the buyers seat so to speak. If I was in your shoes I would be like a kid that got locked in the candy store with all that new equipment.
Have fun with your new tools and drop us a line about the new Unisaw once you get it set up and making sawdust.
Mike
Mike.
Under the free trade agreement is there even any duty on new or used woodworking equipment. I bought a laptop computer for my Mom that lives in Abbotsford BC and sent it to her via Fed Ex without any problems. Check into it, if that is the case I can get stuff down here and send it up there for you. I have a few connections with some Canadian truckers I know who wont rape me on the shipping. As a matter of fact you could find some local truckers who come down here that could haul equipment for you. As long as they are taking whatever they p/u here in the states go's to a address in Canada they can haul it.
The equipment I bought I got some good discounts on. Like the Shop Fox 12" Jointer. It has what Shop Fox calls a paint blem. Therefore I got it for a $1000.00 off normal retail. The Powermatic DC is a 3 HP unit with almost 2000 CFM of suction, for $725.00 with a full warranty. All because it was set up as a floor model, but never run. Plus they gave me 7% of the total amount I spent in the form of a credit to use for the little things like sandpaper and a new Dado set, which was a nice bonus.
But let me know if there is something you cant get up there that you want sent to you.
Taigert
Thanks for the kind offer Taigert, I am not sure with the free trade what gets charged duty and what does not. Sounds like you are getting some awesome deals right now. Are you from the B.C. area originally? I am actually on holidays right now on Vancouver Island, we will be leaving Cowichan Bay today heading up to Campbell River to meet up with some friends that will be flying out today, going fishing for four days later this week off the west side of the Island.
P.S. Have fun with your new tool collection.
Mike
Well all my toys except one arrived today! The new Delta Unisaw is packed into 5 boxes. The saw body, fence, drawer, side table and fence rails. And a huge pile of other heavy boxes for everything else. The 1036 lb jointer came bolted to it's skid that sits 6"off the floor. It should be fun lifting the jointer with a engine crane and straps.
BUT one of the items I need the most isn't here yet!!!!!!!!!!!
My mobile base for the Unisaw.........
I am not going to move the saw from it's skid till I have some wheels to put under it. If what I think has happened a ton of s*** will be hitting the fan in the morning. I'm trying to keep my cool till tomorrow morning when I no for sure what is happening. And if they can't have my wheels here by close of business Weds. I be screaming so loud they'll hear me all of the way back in Seattle.
I had my son take pics today, now he has to teach me how to get them from the camera and into the computer, then onto knots. Thank God for teenagers.
The electrician was here to survey the shop to put his shopping list together so he should be ready to install my 200 amp service in the shop on Thurs or Fri. That will give me 5 - 220 plugs and room for 10 - 110 circuits. What I'll do is each plug box will be on 2 separate breakers. The top plug will be on a different circuit than the bottom plug. My electrician really broke my heart this morning when he told me that the town was selling a phase converter that I could have run my shop on. I could have bought all 3 phase equipment. But there is need to cry over spilt milk what's done is done. He didn't know till the other day, and by then It was to late.
Taigert
Edited 6/17/2009 2:42 am ET by Taigert
I bought the new unisaw on June 10th. It should be here in the next day or two. I also ordered the mobile base but "Bob" at tools-plus told me that there was a design flaw in the mobile base for the 36-L336 (the wheels weren't strong enough for the weight), and the new base(s) wouldn't be available until August. My plan is to put the saw where I can use it (although it will be "in the way" when not in use), until the base arrives.
Also, for the person that asked for pictures of the packaged/crated saw, if you'll go to http://www.deltaportercable.com/unisaw/ and click on Unisaw Owners, then click Set-up Video it'll show you what you're asking about.
I've been curious about the saw packaging also. I'm wondering just how heavy a piece one would need to carry (have carried) down the stairs and into the shop.
The two guys in the video on the Delta site lugging the cabinet off the pallet make it look easier than I thought it would be. Granted, the one guy is a big fellow.
Since it sounds like you guys are pretty busy unloading your new saws I won't bother you. I just wanted to throw that out there for anyone else who happens to read this and might know.
-Jonnieboy
The trucking company called me today & my saw is scheduled for delivery tomorrow. I have 1 guy (18 yrs old), and a hand truck (that will convert to a 4 wheeled float), that will help me get it to my garage. Unfortunately, I won't be able to assemble it right away due to my daughter (who manages my place for me), being on vacation this week. If you're interested in specifics on how it shipped (I do know that it's on 3 skids and the total weight is something like 648lbs.), drop me an email with "Unisaw delivery specs." in the subject line and I'll be glad to email you with any information you need about it.
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Justin,
I'm smiling here as I think about you taking delivery on your new Unisaw. Enjoy!
I'll drop an e-mail to the other address, too.
Thanks!
-Jonnieboy
It's good to have two circuits available at a given work space, but if you put them in the same box there is the risk that someone who isn't intimately familiar with the wiring could check the box, see it was "off" at the breaker on one plug, and not realize that the other half was still live. I'd think it better to have each circuit in different boxes alternating around the room so that no adjacent outlets are on the same circuit. Much less confusing for folks who come after.
Very good point
Taigert
Please post some pictures of the crate and unboxing! Funny that your mobile base didn't arrive yet. My Rockler all-terrain mobile base arrived today, now I just need to commit myself to buying a saw.
I have pics of all the toys all boxed up. I just have to figure out how to get them off my sons memory card. The stupid thing will fit in my HP 8500 Office Jet PRO printer, but not my HP Laptop? Go figure? You can email directly from the printer, so I was thinking about emailing the pics to myself. Then save them as pictures? Does anyone know how to do this our if it will work? Then I think I can figure out how to post them from there?
My thing is woodworking not IT, I know how to do most of the basic things I need to do with a computer, past and we are entering the Twilight Zone! I have tried to get my son to figure it out for me but he's mad at me at the moment. He figures we should have had every thing assembled by now. I had my shop rewired, and they just finished that today. I wouldn't let him in the shop where we would be getting in the way of the electricians. Once they finished he wanted to get at it hard and heavy, but it was just to darn hot in there for me. So I have a window A/C unit installed now working to cool it down. So I'll head out there in a little bit and see if it bearable in there tonight and work the nightshift.
As for my mobile base Delta really screwed up on that one, big time. They started selling the saws before having the bases made. You would think that they would be able to have figured out how to have both products ready at the same time. Like the guy at Delta said the Engineer who figured this one out is a IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's not just me who is unhappy, it sounds like everyone buying one of the new saws.
Bottom line if your looking at buying one of the new Unisaws with a set of wheels under it, forget it for about 2 months. Or you put it together with out then figure out how to get the base under it later? I hope the same Engineer wasn't involved with any other part of the saw.
We have the saw off it's skid and sitting on concrete now, so I guess the next step is to start cleaning all the shipping gunk off the cast iron. At least its not on there as heavy as some of the equipment that comes out of China.
We also have the jointer off it's skid and onto a mobile base. The base was from another machine, so I put a couple of 2x4's in the frame of the mobile base to give enough clearance to open a access panel, and not hang up on the DC discharge. The good thing is that it looks like it will work. No need to spend what they want for new mobile base when I can make this one do the job. The 1 1/2' height gain is really the only difference.
It looks like my IT guy lost a battle with the Sandman, and is now passed out on the couch in front of the TV. So I'll just leave him sleep and work on posting pics in the am, later today.
So for tonight it's just going to be cleaning cast iron and maybe setting up the jointers in feed & out feed tables, then checking out all the other little adjustments that are needed to get a perfect cut.
Taigert
Anyone with any ideas on tranfering the pics from the printer, to my laptop, then to Knots. The help would bw appreciated, if you could just shoot me a email.
Thanks
Edited 6/28/2009 3:53 am ET by Taigert
why not just get a different mobile base? shop fox has heavy duty ones that will fit it and they can be ordered thru woodcraft.
chris
Allready tried that idea, they told Woodcraft it wont fit the new saw
I have had a Shop Fox mobile base on order from Grizzly since probably January and no sign of it yet.
Edited 6/21/2009 7:57 pm ET by Tinkerer3
I'm starting to think someone should start a mobile base business, what do you think?
Taigert
If that is a motion, I'll second it.
Whoa, I looked out at the garage this afternoon and there was a package from Grizzly, that mobile base finally came after waiting these many months. I had all but given up on the thing. It isn't quite long enough to fit my jointer/planer so s'pose I'll have to do some adapting. I would like to see someone build just the corner that would let the machine set down on its base then when you want to move just have a lever or whatever that would move the castor down to lift the machine. You should be able to hook the corners up with wood or a metal bar using any length. Maybe some one does make a similar base.
I just ordered a Rockler all terrain mobile base. It's quite sturdy and has large urethane wheels. It looks like I could easily put a 500-600 lbs saw on it. I ordered it because I wanted to have it on location before I order a new saw. My original plan was to have the mobile base and then order the Grizzly G0623X sliding table saw.Unfortunately, I just can't get myself to order a new saw. It happens to me about every 6-8 months! It's a combination of not a spending a boat load of money in this fragile economy and knowing that my Delta Contractor's saw with Leeson motor is not that bad of a saw.
"All terrain base...." Wow, do you have a rough floor? Is it four wheel drive?
I know what you mean about ordering big ticket items in the present economy. I have slowed down too. But I have most of the tools I need. Will need a good dust collector but want to get the tool arrangement in the shop somewhat settled first. I put that S F mobile base together intending to put it under the jointer/planer but would need to alter it somewhat (make it longer) when I noticed it would just about fit the B S. I have that MM16 B S and never did like it's mobility. The Shop Fox makes a difference. Was holding off getting mobile bases while wondering if I had room enough to place the tool in one spot and leave it there. I'm finding that I need them to just locate a good place to put the tool to start with and then it is always good to be able to move the tool to clean under. I will have to get another one for the jointer at about 700 lbs. if I want to move it around but would like to get one for the drill press, spindle sander, lathe and even the router table.
Wow, over three weeks since the Internet and phone went out. Just got the cable fixed today. I was going to edit my message to say that the mobile base was so much fun that I'd like to push it around the shop all afternoon. Ha. the fact is that I ordered three more bases this afternoon since they were on sale at ten dollars off.
Behave.
Paul Lundberg (Better known as "Tink")
Quality = Performance - Expectations
You've been a very patient man, and reinforce my belief in 'old iron' (not that it's not without its own issues, but at least there's an excuse).
Good equation. I'll have to remember that one.
Here are a few pics of the arrival, sorry for the mess the shop is in right now. We just moved from Seattle and the shop has been used for storage up till today. Yjay and the shop was somewhat of a mess when we moved in.
I'll take the next group of pics, now as my son has shown me what to do. The plan is to head out to the shop tonight and start putting the saw to gether, if it cools down outside.
Taigert
Edited 6/20/2009 10:55 pm ET by Taigert
Thanks for the pictures. That's quite the jointer you have there. Congratulations on all the new shop tools. I can't wait to see the saw set up in the shop.
Well we went to put the new saw together tonight, BUT Delta screwed up again and sent me TWO Left Wings. Instead of one Right and one Left.It's one thing that I have to wait two months to get a mobile base, but this is just too much.
In the DVD you get with the saw is a well put together video on how to put everything together. They are very clear about how to determine which is the Left wing. They state "the Left wing will have two countersunk holes", this is where the on/off switch mounts. The wings come come in one box with both wings inside. I pulled out the first wing, it had the two holes at the front. Front is determined by the chamfered edge. We mounted as per the instruction sheet from the box, which is more detailed than the book or DVD. They supply four small set screws to help level the wing. So you have three large holes on the side of the wing where it attaches to the table. And you also have four small holes, you are to use holes closest to the front and rear for the set screws. Every thing went well attaching the left wing. We followed all the directions and got every thing leveled and secured one the same plane as the main table. We put the Right wing in place with three large bolts only "finger tight" then tried to put the set screws in and no holes. After looking closer we found it was also a left wing.
At that point every thing came to a halt. So it looks like it's off to Woodcraft in the morning, a 100 mile round trip. Hopefully they can find the right part in one of the other saws they have. Or they can take the one off the saw they have on display, I don't really care at this point where it comes from.
My faith in Delta is quickly going down the tubes!!!!!!!
I was going to post some pics, but I am being told " I have exceeded my allocation" I don't know what that's all about?
Taigert
Well I have a Delta Hybid saw that I have been fighting with for months trying to get it adjusted. You can find some previous posts (rants) about them. It has a two year warranty and I loaded it up on my truck todayand will deliver to the distributor tomorrow. They will work on it to see if they can align the saw. I have had two guys from a factory repair shop come out and they can not get it to stay aligned. I am hoping for a new saw, which I will craig list and then off to Griz to get a decent tool.
I highly urge others not to buy a Delta tool. Just no quality or quality control.
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You got TWO LEFT WINGS.
That's not good.
From what I read here, this is mostly a right wing operation. Two right wings would be better. :-)
MelMeasure your output in smiles per board foot.
This saw came totally Left, wing. I'm sure I'll get a Lifetime Membership to CNBC in the mail any day now.
With my luck if had been a Right Wing Saw, Rush would have delivered it. Than I'd of had to lock up my Tylenol and Asprin, Vitamins, Toothpaste, Mouthwash..................................
You get the Idea, DiTo
And here I'm just a Middle of the road kind of guy, HAHAHA
Taigert
Taigert,
You are a lucky guy.
You have a good sense of humor.
Enjoy.
MelMeasure your output in smiles per board foot.
Dang, now I know who hit the powerball! Nice new toys you have there. Have fun and enjoy. The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.' - Renaldus Magnus
Powerball Don't I wish!
No I sold all my shop equipment before moving from Seattle to Indiana, Just replacements. Cheaper to move the cash than the Iron, movers charge to much to have them move all the weight of shop equipment and MDF jigs and such.
Well I have to take my hat off to Dennis and Travis at Woodcraft in Cincinnati. Theyn took care of Deltas screw up on giving me two Left wings. They went in the back and raided a new saw to get me a Right side Wing.
So it's back to putting the table saw together tonight. Hopefully without any more problems.
Taigert
Seattle to Indianna, you are in for a culture shock!
Glad you managed to get new stuff. I've been part of two corporate moves and when the movers came in I expected them to balk at the stuff and the guys just say no problem. My last move (all goods) was over 30,000lbs. Thank god the company picked up the tab. Uncle sam considers it income so I had to pay about 8 grand on the move but thats better than the whole enchalada! Let us know how you like that unisaw!The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.' - Renaldus Magnus
Taigert, welcome to Seattle!
From Seattle to Indiana, we left Seattle.
I really, really, really do miss Seattle. Our son is flying out there (back home for my son and I) next week till he has to be back here for school.
Taigert
Having recently set up a few of these saws, I will suggest you make sure to check flatness of top. both saws i set up had a rather large crown in the middle section. not a whole lot you can do about that. One other thing to consider is the way the switch is mounted. Without modification, the saw is not set up to accept a sliding table. The switch mounts to the left extension wing, unlike most saws that have switch mounted on rails. Not a problem if you leave wing on but I think most people take off extension wing to minimize torque on sliding table fence. Although right wing is drilled for switch, the cord is not long enough to reach.
Someone mentioned that rails are light - this is largely because they are made out of aluminum. Interesting. As far as drawer goes - be sure to mount it before you flip saw to mount table to saw.
Will say this - the riving knive and blade guard are awesome! It is capable of being set at two heights for thru and non thru cuts. The up front release is the bee's knees! Guard and anti kickback paws can be removed with little fuss. Be sure to get thin kerf knife if you use thin kerf blades.
Chris
Congratulations on the new saw! I wish that either my local tool guy or the local Woodcraft would stock one of those saws. The local Woodcraft just got one of the new mid-line cabinet saws, but I really want to see the Delta.
Please post some detailed pictures of the saw when you get it. Crated up and the un-boxing and set up would be awesome photos to have too.
Now for the rest of the Story
The following four video's will help support why I feel ripped off, and that a bait and switch is going on here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PREA5XDDOA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5Nrx_1Rsbg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUiz8oKQjDM
After taking the extra Left Wing back and trading for a Right Wing as should have been shipped with saw in the First place. The Right Wing attached to the saw and leveled out well.
Just a note about the finish of the cast iron.
Delta really builds up the quality of the cast iron top for this Flagship saw. It is claimed to be built in America by one of the "Industries Leading" Manufactures. A machinist is able to work metal too much closer tolerances than can be seen with the normal eye. One thing that is immediately noticeable on my table is that the bevel on the two cast iron wings are different from that on the saw bodies table. I find it something that keeps bothering me is the lack of attention to detail. If one of us had a piece we were making for a customer, just for spec or a commission. The piece would not leave the shop till the bevel was uniform the entire length. The second factor about the non-uniform bevel is that at the point where the wings bevel meets with the bevel on the table you have two very sharp points. When installing the front rail this sharp point has already drawn blood from the piece of skin removed when my knucle made contact it.
Bottom line is that it makes the saw look cheap, and is a safety hazard, that has to be filed down.
At this time, I have only checked the flatness on the cast iron with a 18" straight edge. It appears my 36" is MIA at this time.
Time to put the table together.
When you watch the preview DVD's for this saw, or the DVD that comes with you saw. The presenter has a saw set up with both a table to the right of the saw as well as a outfeed table. He starts off by saying I want to introduce you to the New Delta Unisaw. With no mention at any point in the presentation, that some of what you are been show is optional or you just wont get. Go Figure? SO Don't get your hopes up because you are not about to recieve any where near what you think you are going to get, in more ways than one.
The table and legs are in one box. And the drawer, comes in a box of its own. As you sit down to inventory the parts you will be scratch scratching your head. If you have watched the DVD that promoted this saw, or the DVD that came with the saw. Like I said what you are shown and what you get will not be one in the same. There will only be ONE table top. At no point in the build up is there any mention of the outfeed table being an option for an extra $499.00. (That is also not available currently.) During the video about the table the presenter keeps referring the table being built like a Aircraft Carrier. When he gets to the table legs, he explains how Delta paid attention to what the "Woodworker Wants". He says that Delta has received a ton of complaints about the legs of the table on the previous Unisaw models. For this table they have "beefed up the legs. One way they did this was be increasing the size of the legs. They done this, and I must say, a nice set of legs. The second item they changed was that they have added a stretcher between the legs. At this point he states how this definetly brings this saw up to "Aircraft carrier specs" Again it will not be there????? Sorry, NO Stretcher? It appears that it should be there, as it looks like you have the hardware to attach it. But you will not find any holes drilled in the legs to recieve it. At this point my blood pressure is rising, and my faith in Delta is plummeting.
The box that holds the drawer will, also hold the contents of what goes in the drawer the guard, kickback pawl, one non rubberized wrench(again Sorry no rubber anywhere, the videos very strongly promote the Rubberized handle) the arbor nut is already on the saw as is one of the riving knives. If you watched the FWW video with Mike Bois, Deltas Managing Engineer of this New Unisaw. He explains how you will not have to keep spending money on this and that. He explains how the saw comes with a Medium Riving Knife mounted on the saw plus two other riving knives one for thick blades and one for the thin kerf blades. When I showed this to Dennis from Woodcraft, he stated "you can read too much into the video". That is not how I feel. When you show me an item in a video and do not tell what exactly is optional equipment I expect for it to be there. These aren't 30 second sound bite commercials we are talking about, we are watching Mike Bois (and others hired to give Delta's scripted words) Delta's head Engineer for the New Unisaw on a carefully produced video, as well as the interview he gave FWW at the IWF in Vegas. FWW never tried to trick him into saying something he did not want to say. He very clearly states "three" riving knives. Not we will give you one with the saw, and sell you the others at $50.00 a piece. When he is talking about the drawer he does state that it will accommodate five saw blades and they are very clear about the fact that you only get one blade, and not all the ones shown in the drawer. According to the second youtube video at the top of this post you are supposed to get more than just one insert. Instead now I am being told that the Dado & Zero Clearence inserts are available at around $60.00 each. Ouch!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H51HM-k0MSc FWW's interview with Mike Bois at FWH in Las Vegas.
We continued to get the table finished and mounted to the saw. Do not crank everything tight yet, the hardware attaching the table to the cast iron still needs to be adjusted. You till have to get all the cast iron and table on the same plane.
At the rear of the table the corner closest to the saw the laminate on the edge was left proud for about a inch or so from the corner. At this point I have not checked to see why. Also there is something on the surface of the laminate (looks like a sloppy job of cleaning up squeezed out adhesive) I left it alone till I can photograph it. There could be something behind the laminate that kept it from sitting properly. If it is not fixed I know I or someone else will catch a shirt or something on it, and break it off. The table was easy to put together and attach to the iron. You do not forget to put the nut on the leveling legs so you can lock them in place when everything is leveled.
Attaching the fence rails.
Make sure before you even start setting up the saw that you have enough room at the right side of the saw to slide the fence tube onto the top of the rail. We had two bolts missing that are needed to attach the rails to the saw. This did shut us down for the evening when we reached this point. I will take the hit for the two missing bolts causing me lose time at this point. I miss counted when doing the inventory of parts. I sourced the bolts myself in the morning. Again going back to what you're shown in the video, they explain and show how all the parts are nicely divided and packaged separately. Every pouch of hardware I received was just all thrown together in one pouch. Overall the rails and fence were a straight forward install.
Tuning up the saw.
All the steps are well written and easy to follow, this part of the video was a good part to pay attention to. Everything except the riving knife and fence were set up from the factory and did not require any adjustment.
Overall impression.
Feel angry, perhaps like, a bait and switch has pulled on me. Really angry that no one from Delta has called to address this problem. I gave them over a week to resolve this issue before posting it here on the Knots Forum. I guess inside I was hoping it was just something that was overlooked instead of what it really is. I think that if you're going to show it off, advertise it, make sure that is what I get when it arrives in my shop.
Lots of people knock Grizzly, but when they show you something they are very clear about it if there is something that differs from what are going to received when you unpack those boxes.
The saw performs like a dream,very quite, no vibrations. Cuts 10/4 Hard Maple like, soft Butter.
Overall Impression?
Very Nice Saw, very accurate.
No Vibration
Disappointed about the visible flaws such as the uneven bevels on the front edge of the cast iron. Feel like a bait and switch has been pulled on me and others.
Taigert
Tried to post pics but the system says I have exceeded my allocation?
Edited 6/28/2009 4:28 am ET by Taigert
Edited 6/28/2009 4:34 am ET by Taigert
A good review. The things you describe would make me feel very irritated also.Peter
Better life through Zoodles and poutine...
Well my Delta Hybrid is in the Phoenix Dewalt, Porter Cable Delta service center for repairs. Waiting for new trunions and several other parts. Now going on 10 days without a saw to use..... The saw has never been right, and now it is going on 1.5 years. I will have to take my test tools and set up at their shop to check it out. Bring in some maple to rip on a bevel and straight to see if it holds or not. Just what I have time for.
Delta has been a miserable experience for me. I will put in on the market and see if I can dump it for a few hundred bucks and get another piece of green iron. I have no complaints on the 8" jointer, 15" thickness planer, shop filter and drill press from Griz. All as advertised, one broken wheel handle that was replaced in 3 days. All work like they should.
Good Luck and I hope when you have it resolved, it stays that way. Some hassles up front are one thing, but on going issues for 1.5 are something else indeed.
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I don't know where this all going to go. I hope Delta just does the right thing and honor what they started. I really don't think it would help anyone to drag it out. The last thing I want is to have to go down the same road as you have been travelling.
Taigert
I think you are doing a great job of reviewing your new Unisaw, I know it is hard to take the time to do such things when you are busy trying to get your new shop set up and working, hopefully Delta will get a few things worked out to your satisfaction. That new jointer looks real nice, new tools always look nice. Good luck in the new shop, please post more pictures of the shop as you get it set up if you can.
Mike
Update
Still no response of any kind, Woodcraft was trying to figure out what is going on as well. Also No word from Woodcraft either.
Woodcraft said there saw is also without the stretcher, they say that it was not even noticed by any of the staff.
Am I the only one who reads and views everything I can get my hands about the product I am buying. I am like this with all my purchases money is tight right now so to me it is important to spend it wisely. And get everything you expected to get.
I'll try calling Delta again today, and see what happens. I really want this thing resolved quickly.
Taigert
Update
Delta had someone give me a call, at last.
He came right out and said they goofed by someone not calling me back. He said it is not the way things are to be done. Their intent is to address customer service problems, right away.
The result of the call is that I will be receiving a shipment ASAP, it will be leaving in the morning. Which would be today. At the very least they are addressing my concerns. So we will see what happens.
On a good note I had the saw running.
It is all they claim it to be, it is one he;; of a saw. At 3hp it will cut anything you would ever want to cut, with absolutely no effort. I didn't bother to change blades, I used the blade that came on the saw. Beautiful cuts, what more can I say! Most of the times the blade that is shipped with a saw is garbage, but not this time. I think I'll keep this one.
Taigert
That's reassuring, Talgert. Now that you have their attention, I trust that they will resolve the issues that you've been having. Manufacturers should equip purchases of this scale with ZCCSIs (zero clearance customer service inserts), to prevent customers from falling through the crack, so to speak.
Good to know.Cheers,
Peter
Better life through Zoodles and poutine...
Good to hear you have your saw up and running, also I'm glad to here Delta has someone working on the problems you are encountering, with a brand new line of saw like this there is always a few glitches that must get ironed out, that is why it is important that Delta try and work with you to make sure this new Cabinet saw works as well as it possibly can and stands up to the Unisaw name. Congrats on the new shop full of tools.
Mike
My Unisaw is 12+ yrs old, with no problems. Ever. Your comment reminded me that twice in my life I passed on buying a new car that I REALLY wanted because there was at least one major drivetrain component that did not have 2+ years on the road. I was always happy about this decision. I'm disappointed to hear of the problems, and - not that it will make anyone feel any better - would like to pass along my appreciation to all the early adopters that are sorting these issues out in their shops, before someone in my house decides to get a new one.
Not to hijack the thread, but my observation is that the Cust Svc department at WMH has not been able to keep up with their acquisitions department. I have personal case studies in the last 12 months for Powermatic, Delta, Dewalt, and P-C. Getting a bit frustrating, as this thread points out. Sounds like you kept your cool pretty well, though - well done.
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