I’m looking for advice on selecting a mitre saw stand for my Bosch 4410L saw.
I’ve seen the Bosch BT3, BT4 and Dewalt model.
I read and heard the negative feedback about the BT3 adjustable leg.
I wonder why Bosch discontinued the BT3 design and introduced the BT4 which is similar to Delta’s and Rigid models.
I was surprised to hear that Bosch had to made design changes to the new BT4 model.
Looking for suggestions and advice on which mitre saw stand would be better suited for the Bosch 4410L sliding mitre saw in regards to:
ease of use; setup; durability and stability.
Thanks
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Have you discarded the Ridgid as a possibility? It seems they've recently redesigned it, too. I use the original version as a planer stand most of the time.
No , I haven't.
I'll have another look at it and do a closer comparison with the Trojan and ....
The more versatile the stand, the better it will be.
Thanks for the replyRRR
"The more versatile the stand, the better it will be." I like the big, solid platform on the Ridgid. And the extendable support rollers. There are some mild irritations with the way things adjust, but I think they might have improved that with the new model.
Here it is being a planer stand instead (in stowed position).
View Image forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
I like that option of using the table for mounting other equipment.
Looks good.
RRR
Thanks, RRR. It was one of my better ideas -- they don't come along often, LOL!forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
If it works for you. Keep doing what your doing.Take care
RRR
TripleR, I just took another look at the Ridgid while in Home Depot tonight. They actually have designed it so you can put a wide variety of benchtop tools on it. It looks like they sell separate base-pieces that you can put on your miter saw, planer, etc., and then put on one tool, or the other, or even both. Interesting. The main body is similar to the HTC Port-A-Mate.
forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
Edited 3/19/2008 1:10 am by forestgirl
Forestgirl,
I had a look at the new Ridgid stand and it definitely looks beefed up. The stand appears to be quite versatile for use with other equipment.
I'm narrowing down the selection of which stand to go with.
There definitely is a close resemblance with the HTC Port -a- mate unit.Thanks for the update.RRR
RRR , I have a Trojan brand and love it , very heavy duty . Check em out .
good luck dusty
I'll have a look at the Trojan model.Thanks
RRR
Another worth your time is Rousseau , also very nice product .
dusty
I look it up.
Thanks
RRR
My Bosch 5412L is mounted on a Rigid stand. I'm quite happy with the combination. It is constantly being toted to and around job sites. Got mine on sale for $99!
I'll be having a closer look at the Ridgid stand. ThanksRRR
Jump over to Fine HomeBuilding, (it's on the Taunton tab at the to pf this page), and then under tool guide, click all tool topics, then Equipment and Accessories - Bases and Stands.
They had a review article a while back, and the Trojan TWC-35 was the author's favorite for the jobsite.
I went to the site, they offer quite the review on all the stands.
Decisions, decisions. Well they have narrowed the selection. Its a matter of finding the retailers who stock the product and having a close up look and test run.
Thanks againRRR
I got a Ryobi on sale at HD for $99. It works great.
My partner has one of those.
Works well
but weighs a ton!
Dear R,
I am a contractor and this is the stand that I use: http://www.sawhelper.com/index.html
I use the model "150S" which give me 9' 4" of surface from the blade to the left and 60" to the right. I can tell you that it is everything that the website claims it is. Unlike some other setups, it has a continuous surface not just two "pins" that the material rests upon. The "Sawhelper" is very accurate and once set up can be taken down and reassembled very rapidly with NO loss of accuracy. It does not need a flat surface to be setup and can be set up on grass, dirt or any rough area. The "Flipstop" is great, overall it is a well engineered, well made product. I Have a hitachi 8 1/2" slider in the shop and a 10" Hitachi that I use in the field. I leave the 8 1/2" setup permanently in the shop and just take the outboard wings off for use in the field. It is very stable, and on jobsites, I find that most of the carpenters end up using my setup, even though they may have their own. I would not hesitate to put a 12" slider on this nor one of the old 15" miter-saws.
Best,
John
Hi John,
I appreciate your feedback.
I went to the saw helper website and read up on the product. Looks impressive.
The next step will be getting a price on the stand and accessories.Thanks again
RRR
Dear R,
I don't recall what the costs were, but I have used these for years and can vouch for their quality. I don't think that you will be disappointed.Best,John
I've seen the finish carps onsite with these. They are usually scratched to $h*t and covered with paint and compound drips, but every guy that i see with one says you can't bust 'em.
The Ridgid stand appears to be getting positive feedback. Thanks
RRR
Here is what I bought at a Farm&Fleet for under $80. It works well, folds, and also wheels around. The web link is http://www.wolfcraft.com
Edited 3/6/2008 8:44 am ET by gnome
Thanks for the informaton.
I had a look at the Wolf craft manual showing the saw. Looks good
RRR
I have the same saw mounted on the Rousseau stand. It is very solid and stable, a little
pricey but nice. Don't know how it would be to transport, mine stays in shop.
I've been thinking about the Rousseau stand as well (always considering buying tools!). Is this the XL, what's the fence like? The Amazon website shows a fence attached to the stand and it looks pretty nice. Also, I was wondering if I could dual purpose it as a stand for my DeWalt 733 portable planer too. I thought I could store the planer on the bottom shelf. Is this plausible?
Jm,
I just had a look at the Rousseau stand, the 2850. It also can be retrofitted with the Planer Hinge Set but it doesn't give many details on how it works. I was looking at it here on MikesTools. Not a bad price!
One thing I noticed is that the stand has 4 wheels vs 2 for other stands. Might work good in the woodshop but maybe not so good for jobsite use?
Regards,
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Edited 3/7/2008 7:34 am ET by KiddervilleAcres
Edited 3/7/2008 7:42 am ET by KiddervilleAcres
Bob,Just to be sure. The stand that you show is the kit, which you build out with MDF and not the metal stand like the Rousseau 2875XL. I am looking for a workshop stand. I think that now I'm moved back into my house, having a portable stand isn't that important. Although I sure would have loved something like the Saw Helper during the trim stages of my remodel which was the only part I really worked on.
Oh, OK. Didn't realize it was a kit. I'll go back and have a look at the 2875XL but if I recall it was a lot more expensive.
Any thoughts/experience with the planer clamps?
Regards,Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
The 2875XL is a lot of money. If it wasn't we'd already have one! I have no experience with the planer clamps. It'd be nice to be able to dual purpose the stand, it seemed as if it was really an either or set up. I'd mostly use it for the miter saw, but when milling lumber I'd like to switch it over for the planer without too much effort.
About 15 years ago I made a chop saw table w/ 3 1/2" alum. tall I- beam salvaged from an above ground pool deck. A pair of 7 1/2' pc.s w/ 1/2" ply. make the solid base, and two more pair w/ 3/4" ply. give me the req'd. height to be level w/ the bed of the 15" hitachi chop saw. My set-up has 4' on the left, the saw opening, and the remaining 1 1/2' or so on the right. There"s a drawer on ea. end, but the drower on the left has 4' sides. I pull it out to support long stock, and can quick clamp it open for a stop block. The drawer ft. is level w/ the top, so I rough cut, spin it, then let the stock droop down into the drawer a little, and use the inside of the front as the stop. At one point the back fence had a shallow dovetail to recieve a salvaged tape measure section. It, and the ply. have been replaced a few times. I have a handle on the front at the balance point. I can carry this in one hand and the saw in the other. The original folding legs couldn't support half a lift of ply., and theyv'e yet to be replaced. (folding saw horses do the trick). this, and my tablesaw set-up is perfect at a job site. When its not there, its set up in the shop. it's quicker than the R.A.S..
I've used many different "store bought" systems over the years. I wouldn't trade mine for any of them. I hate roller supports. The stock moves when I measure and frequently falls to the floor ( or into the wall). adjusting a stop is a pain and not usually stiff enough for accurate repetitive cuts. Legs w/ wheels on one end makes it easy to move, but the best trick is when I put it on a creeper while doing hd. wd. floors!
Not to hijack the original thread, but personally, I'm looking for a mobile solution as opposed to a portable solution. The Rousseau seems to provide sturdy extension wings that can fold out of the way as opposed to being knocked over like a roller stand as you mentioned. For me, all the tools seem to fit fine in my new little garage shop... until I start trying to assemble projects!
you mentioned a fence on the rousseau miter saw stand, I have one on mine with the
stops on it and it works great. The wings fold down and you can shove it over in the corner.
I put plywood on the top and bottom shelf. Seems like it makes it more ridged. I bolted
mine on as that's the only thing i use it for.
with the plywood you have to re-figure to get saw table level with wings, no biggie ?
Installing tape measure on fence just right can be a little trick too.
I looked at most of them and thought this was best of the lot. Still do for a mobile and
stable shop saw stand. GOOD LUCK ON YOUR DECISION.
"I'm looking for a mobile solution as opposed to a portable solution. " The Rigid miter saw stand (MUV) has worked admirably for me as a planer stand (see pic and link I posted above in this thread). I've very heavy duty, but folds up to a small footprint when need be. I'm going to stop today and look at the new design, hoping to find one that's on the ground (as opposed to up on a display) so I can play with it.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
Another vote for the Ridgid stand, cant beat it for the price, built like a tank.
Dick38
Hi - I can't find the rigid stand (the one forrestgirl has posted) on the rigid site (http://www.rigid.com ?) or the finehmmebuilding review. Can someone point me to a site? Even HomeDepot doesn't have it on their Web site. Thx -Yurij
It's Ridgid, not Rigid. You can find it here: http://www.ridgid.com/Tools/AC9944-Miter-Saw-Utility-Vehicle/EN/index.htm
-Steve
I had trouble finding it to, so glad Steve provided the link. Note, though, it's been redesigned since I got mine. I looked at it in the store the other day, and they've solved some problems where the lock-down levers could interfere with other parts of the stand.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
I have the Ridgid also. It is OK but wobbly on dirt. It needs a roller out beyond the unit for anything longer than 6'. I like a pair of horses and a platform to clamp my saw on for outdoor applications. My DeWalt has a place to clamp the saw base but my Makita and Hitachi do not have adequate clamping. I use the Ridgid for those saws.
I have to put the kabosh on using the Sawhelper. I hated it. My main objection is that it has a fence. A fence will pinch your blade because the piece will not go tight to the saw fence even with a slight crown. You can turn the crown towards the fence but for long pieces that can be moved as you nail them in place the added work of crowning every cut becomes tedious. A fence on a stand sounds like a good idea but too often it gets in the way.Mike Callahan, Lake Tahoe, Ca.
I'll have to look it up. I would like to have the saw & stand to be portable if possible.Thanks for the feedback.RRR
I like the Ridgid MSUV. I bounce back and forth between mounting my DW734 planer or Hitachi slider on it, and both work great. It's easily portable, stable enough for the work I do and it won't break the bank.
Regards,
Ron
Hi Ron,
I like the option of being able to use the stand to mount other tools on it.The Ridgid stand looks quite robust and would be adequate for various uses with other equipment mounted to it.
ThanksRRR
Another vote for the Ridgid stand. It is very well built, stores away in seconds and is very versatile. Just make sure that the table locks out when you lift it up. If you don't hear it click locked don't go to the side it is hinged on and stick your fingers between the two jointed bars and try to move the stand. Seventy pounds of SCMS cantilevered on your first three fingers as the stand tries to fold up doesn't feel very good. It is also hard to lift the table back up when you are trapped on the wrong/hinge side of the stand with only your left hand available, and you are right handed. On the positive side in about 4 months the scars should be almost invisible, or as in my case, they just blend in with the other scars.
Rob
Thanks Rob,I have checked out the stand, its quite sturdy.
RRR
Anybody have the HTC PM7000?
http://www.htcproductsinc.com/mswc.html
Life is what happens to you when you're making other plans .
No,
RRR
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