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1. 
   mwenz | Feb 02, 2009 05:07pm | #1

   Yes, I had a pair for several years. Wonderful tools.

   What is preventing you from taking shavings with them? Is it techinque (like difficulty holding them vertically true through the cut) or is it something about the planes themselves (like the point at the lowest extent digging in prior to having the irons adjusted enough forward to take a shaving without the tip digging in too much)?

   Practice solves the first issue above. Relieving the corner properly at the bottom extent of the blade so the iron will take a nominal shaving when the lower corner of the blade is just even with the sole soves the latter issue.

   Take care, Mike

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   furndr | Feb 03, 2009 04:16am | #6

   I guess part of the problem is holding the tool truly vertical. It's also possible that I'm not pushing the blade into the side of the rabbet as firmly as I should. I also have trouble keeping the depth stop at the proper setting.

   Maybe more practice is what's needed.

   Thanks for your response.

   Dan 

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   mwenz | Feb 03, 2009 05:42am | #11

   fwiw, I often used fingers from the opposite hand than is pushing to press against the side of the groove. Works on wider grooves. But on thinner ones, the depth is also less and so it is easier to keep the plane(s) vertical.

   Anyone who needs to use pliers to keep the blade or depth stop tight has a defective plane. Unless one is using them imporperly.

   The depth stop shouldn't really some into play as regards pressure onto it. With the sole of the 98/99s touching the bottom of the groove, the depth stop should be adjusted to rest upon the surface. I look at the depth stop as a means of helping to keep the plane(s) vertical. One can see the stop lift if tilting away from the side of the groove being cut, or becoming a pivot if the plane is leaning into the side of the groove being cut. Either way, it is an indicator of not holding the plane vertical.

   The blade should be adjusted to take a relatively fine shaving. But note, as I mentioned above, it is possible that with the blade adjusted thus the tip of the blade may be lower than the sole. Conversely, if the blade is adjusted so the tip of the blade is level with the sole, it may not be adjusted to take enough of a shaving. In either case, the tip must be relieved to allow the desired shaving to be taken without the tip biting into the floor of the groove.

   Take care, Mike

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   derekcohen | Feb 03, 2009 06:23am | #12

   I look at the depth stop as a means of helping to keep the plane(s) vertical.

   Hi furndr

   I totally agree with Mike. This is how I use the depth stop as well.

   Check that you have enough blade projection - a little often just causes no cutting at all.

   The planes are handed and I find one will cut more easily for me than the other.

   Regards from Perth

   Derek

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   furndr | Feb 03, 2009 11:17pm | #14

   Thanks again for the response. I'm beginning to make a little progress, thanks to you guys.

   Dan

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   furndr | Feb 03, 2009 11:15pm | #13

   I have been practicing on some scrap and am beginning to get fairly good shavings, but after a pass or two I get nothing. I believe your comment about the tip needing to be relieved might solve the problem. I'll try that.

   Thanks.

   Dan

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   noviceneil | Feb 05, 2009 07:24pm | #15

   I used the plane again yesterday, during the morning, without the benefit of Affligem Dubble and it worked much better although the depth stop did not always stay put.

   Neil

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   JeffHeath | Feb 02, 2009 05:14pm | #2

   I have them, and love them.  They are fantastic for widening grooves, and I use them for tight fits all the time.

   Perhaps you have the cutting irons protruding too much, trying to take too large of a shaving.  Try backing it off a bit, and going for a thinner cut. 

   I doubt it's the tools.

   Jeff

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   furndr | Feb 03, 2009 04:20am | #7

   It's probably a lack of skill and practice. I have to admit I have used these much less than my other planes. I'll try to get in some practice.

   Thanks.

   Dan  

3. 
   derekcohen | Feb 02, 2009 05:26pm | #3

   Hi furndr

   I have the LN, the Stanley #79 and the Veritas side rabbet planes. They all perform well. And, yes, you only need one ...

   My review, comparing these , is here.

   Regards from Perth

   Derek

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   furndr | Feb 03, 2009 04:28am | #8

   Derek,

   Thank you for the very detailed information!  A thorough review of your material may get me back on track.

   Thanks again!

   Dan 

4. 
   noviceneil | Feb 02, 2009 06:04pm | #4

   I bought one specificly to widen grooves on a homemade drill press table...was not impressed...the blade kept slipping..even tried tightening it with a pair of pliers...still slipped...haven't tried it since but will have another go at it soon.

   Neil

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   furndr | Feb 03, 2009 04:32am | #9

   I haven't had a problem with the blade slipping but I have had trouble with the depth stop moving. My problem may be that I'm pushing down vertically more than into the side of the rabbet.

   I hesitate to use pliers on such nice tools but that's a thought.

   Thanks Neil.

   Dan

    

5. 
   gofigure57 | Feb 03, 2009 03:31am | #5

     Furndr, do the LNs have the same shape as these?  I use them quite a bit for dado and sliding dovetail fitting. 

                    Tom.

   
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   furndr | Feb 03, 2009 04:36am | #10

   Tom,

   The L/N's are very similar,except for the addition of a depth stop.

   I have used them several times, but just don't get the performance I was expecting.

   Thanks.

   Dan