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   JeffHeath | May 02, 2008 06:31am | #1

   Lee,

   Way to go.  That is a great score.  It's a wedgebed jointer (if you already didn't know.)  They are, in my opinion, at the top of the game for 12" jointers.  It looks like you will have some clean up duty, but there's nothing wrong with that. 

   If you don't already have a phase converter, let me know.  I just replaced my old shop made one that finally burned out with a brand new 7.5 hp American Rotary converter.  I'll get you contact info if you need it.

   Oliver made (past tense) some of the finest old iron out there.  Now, and very unfortunately, the company was sold to a guy who's slapping the great American Oliver name on Taiwanese machinery.  UGGGGHHHH, that pisses me off.

   Good luck, and let us know if you need more info.

   Jeff

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   peteryu65 | May 02, 2008 08:05am | #2

   hey this was on woodnet.... as they say, (...)

   "Real Peace isn't just the absence of conflict but is the presence of justice"

    

   Editor’s Note: Offensive language edited out. -Gina, FineWoodworking.com

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   rsaunders | May 02, 2008 08:21am | #3

   What is your problem? Lee linked to a piece of machinery many of us would like to have.  (...)

   "There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters." -- Daniel Webster

   Editor’s Note: Offensive language edited out. -Gina, FineWoodworking.com

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   user-1119429039 | May 02, 2008 04:02pm | #4

   Everyone,

   Please calm down, stay on subject, and try to avoid using language that offends others. Otherwise, we'll close down this thread.

   David HeimManaging EditorFineWoodworking.Com

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   mapleman | May 02, 2008 08:42pm | #6

   David,

   No need to close the thread - just a friendly misunderstanding. I am still in need of some info so closing the thread only screws me.

    I do understand where you are coming from.  There are plenty of other threads that could use closing besides this one, though.

   Cheers,

   Lee

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   user-1119429039 | May 02, 2008 08:47pm | #7

   So many rants, so little time. . . .

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   mapleman | May 02, 2008 09:00pm | #8

   Hi David,

   I understand completely. I think any of the other members here who have visited other forums would agree that this one is by far one of the top ones, if not the best. The most colorful personalities come out to play here. Sometimes that is a bad thing ;)

   But I appreciate what you guys do and what you let us get away with.

   Have a good day,

   Lee

    

3. 
   blewcrowe | May 02, 2008 09:25pm | #9

   The most colorful personalities come out to play here...........

   Now Lee, quit talking about me.

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   mapleman | May 02, 2008 08:40pm | #5

   Thanks for catching my back. I think what he meant by "you suck" was just a friendly jab because I got the deal and he didn't. That is a common thing on some of the other forums - guys just poking fun a bit at each other because someone else got the better deal.

   But thanks anyhow....

   Lee

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   colebearanimals | May 02, 2008 11:15pm | #10

    

                     Nice score!

                                                                Paul

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   dalefv | May 04, 2008 02:32am | #11

   Great find.Lots of luck with it. Check out the bearings to see if they are babbet or not. If they are keep it oiled. When the shims have to all come out go to a good machine shop and see what it would take to convert it to new bearings. I have a friend who has one like it and he converted the babbett to a regular bearing and it is one of the best machines I have used.Great score!!

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   mapleman | May 22, 2008 05:10am | #12

   Hey Gang,

   I will try to update the thread as I get work done on the machine, time permitting.

   Here are some photos of the arrival here with the machine. I had the machine shipped to a friends business with a forklift and then trailered it home from there.

   On another note - the ending wasn't exactly so happy. Besides the fact that the freight company completely botched the pickup/transporting/delivery of the machine, they dumped it over on the shipping pallet it was banded to. Then they did me a huge favor by flipping the machine upside down for the remainder of the ride (OMG) :(

   Considering the circumstances, all hope is not lost. There is a broken cast iron part which will have to be cast at a foundry and machined. The cutterhead guards (front and rear) are also bent but not badly and can be straightened fairly easily. You definitely do not want to lose your cutterhead guard for this machine - a replacement is $1400 -  YIKES!!! As for the beds and fence (the fence has to be seen to be believed - must be 125# by itself) they survived intact. All in all, she should clean up real nice.

   Note: the fence and motor, along with the motor drive guard (which was also trashed) were removed for the ride home. Also missing in these pics are the 2 cast iron extension tables (one is a rabbeting ledge/table which attaches to the front of the right side bed, and the other is a ledge which attaches to the back of the left hand bed - the fence attachment plate slides back and forth on this and also locks down here). Front and rear cutterhead guards were taken off also (to prevent any further damage).

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   mapleman | May 22, 2008 05:30am | #13

   Here is a shot of one of the beds after a little cleaning. They both cleaned up to a dark gray, gunmetal sort of color. The lighter spots are staining from the light rust that was on the beds.

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   Something else I found interesting: as Jeff pointed out, this is a wedge-bed design. But the beds are seperate from the "wedge" (for lack of a better term) and are adjustable via these square head bolts - one in each corner of each bed. This would allow having the beds ground off of the machine if one desired - and realignment would be a straightforward matter as on a parallelogram design machine.

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   Here we have copious amounts of 1/2" plate steel:

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   There is a plate identical to this one on the back. These house the cutterhead bearings and the small round plate I am assuming is a dust seal. Hard to tell from the photo but this plate is a full 1" thick solid steel!

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   mapleman | May 22, 2008 05:41am | #14

   I also found this to be interesting. Here we have a cast iron "angle" bolted just forward and aft of the cutterhead. According to Rich Fink, these were bolted in place and then ground flush with the beds. You can see the seam on this left side, because it shifted in transit and I had to re-align it after I got it home, before I started working on cleaning the beds. The seam on the right hand bed is nearly invisible. (EDIT: the left hand photo did not come out - too much flash. This is actually the right hand side):

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   Also funny to see the Oliver advertising in action - bolted to the front of the machine just under the cutterhead:

    

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   blewcrowe | May 22, 2008 04:18pm | #16

   Holy mackerel! That salada steel.Denny

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   troys | May 22, 2008 08:26am | #15

   Neat machine, I've used and Oliver 12" Jointer, a 30" bandsaw and a 24" planer at the local CC and they sure are nice machines. Good luck with your restoration.

   Troy