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   joinerswork | Dec 22, 2009 08:09pm | #1

   vany,

   Well...

   You could apply the top using screws in oversized "pocket" holes (in the case) which would allow for some movement. Making the top with an overhang, or at least a molded edge will mask the movement. Another solution which I have used in smaller boxes (tea caddy) is to work a groove (as for a drawer bottom) near the top edge of the case, then make the top with a matching tongue-with allowance for expansion- around its underside. The top face of the top can be lapped over the edge of the case all round, with a small (1/8" or so) setback (from the case's top corner) forming a ledge that again masks any movement.

   Ray

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   vanychop | Dec 23, 2009 01:57pm | #2

   thank you so much Ray...you were a great help. I'm going to go out there right now and see if i cant do this.

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   joinerswork | Dec 24, 2009 03:39pm | #3

   You're welcome vany. Good
   You're welcome vany. Good luck with your project.

   Ray

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   WillGeorge | Dec 25, 2009 02:15am | #4

   I never made a humidor cigar box but have made many small boxes about the size of a Cigar Box.

   Somehow I was lost on your description. Me.. NOT your words...

   Yes, I understand that you need to keep the box sealed,, But I have never seen any measurable movement on a box of this size. What am I missing besides being stupid on the subject?

   I 'think' I understand the "then make the top with a matching tongue-with allowance for expansion- around its underside."

   I tried to made some 'boxes' for storing silver to try and keep out air.. I used some Carbide Engraving Router Bits at 30 degrees to make the 'fit'.. Not easy! But when made well, all was well. Except I could never figure out how to do the hinge back and front 'fit' both edges. I could do with one edge fitting but not both angles. I gave up and forgot hinges and made it a 'place on top' with latches to hold the cover onto the 'box'..

   I only ask because if tongue and groove.. I would think the same problem if using a hinge joint.

   Not funnin' you.. A serious question..

   You stated.. You could apply the top using screws in oversized "pocket" holes (in the case) which would allow for some movement. I 'think' you are telling me that the hinge moves?

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   SgianDubh | Dec 25, 2009 05:43am | #5

   I'm pretty sure Ray described
   I'm pretty sure Ray described something like this WillG. Slainte.

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   joinerswork | Dec 25, 2009 06:51pm | #6

   Hi Will,

   The original poster was talking about a box that has its lid cut off off the box after assembly. The top of the lid is what I was talking about attaching with a tongue in groove joint, or screws.

   Hope this clears things up. I can only imagine what Sgian attached, my screen shows a square with a red X in it on his post.

   Ray

   Edit: I recently worked on an old (c 1815) tall case clock that had a tongue and groove joint on the hinge side of its waist door/ door stile. The lock side of the door had a conventional door-stop, a strip, glued full length on the rear of the lock side door stile. The intent was, I am sure, to exclude dust from the clock's case.

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   SgianDubh | Dec 26, 2009 06:51am | #7

   That all you see is a red X in a square is interesting Ray. The image is a double tongued lid with one tongue fitted into the groove worked in the box side and the other tongue sits tight on the top edge of the box side.

   I have no idea why you're seeing what you see. I see the image I posted. I'm therefore pretty sure the HTML coding is correct. Anyway, I'll try sticking the image in again for you. Slainte.

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   WillGeorge | Dec 26, 2009 11:53am | #8

   Richard..

   Thanks for the reply. My old brain got twisted around and somehow I was thinking of some sort of joint for top to body seal.

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   joinerswork | Dec 26, 2009 02:35pm | #9

   Yes Richard, that is precisely what I was describing. Interestingly, on this visit to the thread, BOTH images, the one that was previously "X'd" out, and your re-post, opened.

   Ray

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   SgianDubh | Dec 26, 2009 07:12pm | #10

   Ray, maybe Photobucket's
   Ray, maybe Photobucket's server was down or something when you logged on earlier. Who knows? Slainte.

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   joinerswork | Dec 28, 2009 09:42am | #11

   Richard,

   Whatever it was, it's back again today. Now both windows are "X'd" out. Maybe the gerbils that turn the wheels inside my puter are smokin their cigs again.

   Ray

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   SgianDubh | Dec 28, 2009 03:01pm | #12

   All images showing up fine and dandy on my computer Ray. I can't explain the difficulties you're experiencing, but the smoking computer diagnosis seems as good an explanation as any, ha, ha. Slainte.

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   joinerswork | Dec 29, 2009 12:03pm | #13

   Well, I'll be kissed by Aunt
   Well, I'll be kissed by Aunt Minnie, as my dad used to say. Today, the images are back. Maybe I'm being rationed. Only one to a customer, but on alternate days, up to two per visit.

   Fuddled,

   Ray