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   ring | Nov 14, 2008 02:57pm | #1

   Look at West Systems epoxies. You can get any open time you need.

   David Ring

   http://www.touchwood.co.il/?id=1&lang=e

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   HowardAcheson | Nov 14, 2008 06:29pm | #2

   Here are some longer open time exterior rated adhesives.

   Titebond III -- 20 minutes
   Urea Resorcinal -- 20-30 minutes
   Epoxy, 2 part, slow set -- 30 - 90 minutes depending on the catalyst.

   Howie.........
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   philip_r | Nov 14, 2008 08:40pm | #3

   Additional info:

   Titebond III -- not my first choice if I need more than 5 to 10 minutes.  I always feel rushed.  you can slow the set time by refrigerating your glue - just be sure to shake it up before using it.

   Urea (plastic-resin glue) -- you can buy it pre-mixed or in powder form.  It works great, its cheap and will hold up outdoors.  Just be sure to keep it warm while the glue sets.  Depending on your location - it may be hard to find.

   Epoxy, 2 part, slow set -- 30 - 90 minutes depending on the catalyst.  I love this stuff.  You can eat lunch, literally, in the middle of your glue-up.  Unfortunately, it is the most expensive option and you need a warm shop for the curing period (12 to 24 hours). 

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   HowardAcheson | Nov 15, 2008 12:25am | #4

   Urea Formaldehyde (Plastic Resin and others) is rated as meeting the ANSI Type II specification for "water resistant" adhesive, not "water proof".Urea Recorsinol is rated as meeting ANSI Type I specifications for "waterproof" adhesive.TiteBond III is an ANSI Type I adhesive "waterproof" as are most two part, slow set epoxies.This is not to say that a Type II adhesive would not meet the needs. Type II adhesives are tested to maintain adhesion from multiple wetting and drying cycles and are generally perfectly OK outdoors unless used in a continuously totally submerged application.Howie.........

3. 
   KeithNewton | Nov 15, 2008 01:48am | #5

   I use epoxy for this. Here is a source for about half the price of the one that David recommended.

   Please click on your name, and fill out your profile, at least your location. If you are on one coast, and I could give you a source next door, or the other side of the world, which would you rather have offered?

   http://www.fgci.com/

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   siskiyou | Nov 15, 2008 09:52am | #6

   Keith thanks for the reply. I'm in Oregon. Do you mean the
   West Systems epoxy? Pretty sure I can get that locally.

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   WillGeorge | Nov 15, 2008 04:29pm | #7

   As Howard posted.. Urea Resorcinal

   I made a Cabin Crusier from plans (maybe Popular Mechanics?) way back in the 1960's using that sort of red gule at the time. I no longer own, it but it still floats!

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   mike4244 | Nov 16, 2008 07:02pm | #8

   Gorilla glue has a long open time,if I recall at least one hour.

   mike

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   FrankDrackman | Nov 19, 2008 07:17am | #10

   Gorilla Glue has an open time of 10 - 15 minutes.

    

   http://tinyurl.com/5np6qm

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   dkellernc | Nov 16, 2008 10:30pm | #9

   Siskiyou - Something worth keeping in mind is that all glues in exterior woodwork will fail, some slowly, some very rapidly.  The simple reason is that in outdoor applications, the wood will expand/contract quite a bit with humidity changes, and if the construction is cross-grain, such as mortise and tenons, the differential dimensional changes will split the glue off of the wood.

   It's for this reason that NBC (national building code) prohibits glue-only joints in any structural application - they must all have fasteners.  In the case of your gate, you can draw-bore and pin the M&T joints, and they will not fail until the wood rots, with or without glue.