I have my cyclone and have been researching exhaust or after filter cartridges.
I have a good contact in the filtration industry. He put a question to me today. The 99.99 % @ .5 micron specification is essentially a clean room application. Is your shop a clean room?
If ALL of the dust, chip, debris generated by the machinery is in fact passing through the cyclone and after filter, then you will not have any airborne particulate coming from your activities, then you have reason to use a HEPA grade after filter.
If you are not collecting and removing 100% of the dust through this process, your after filter efficiency is not protecting you from the ultra fine dust that will become airborne and subsequently inhaled.
I have only one experience with a Bill Pentz design cyclone. The man who built it has a shop on an acreage. His cyclone is vented outside without after filters, Regardless of temperature, he dresses warm, opens up the windows and cuts wood.
While I know for a fact that my shop will be much much cleaner by upgrading to this cyclone, I think I will not be avoiding the use of the 3M 8293 face masks.
Any comments from current high end cyclone users?
Thanks
Don
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"The 99.99 % @ .5 micron specification is essentially a clean room application."
I think that's misleading. Yes, that level of filtration is what you might use in a mediocre clean room (not the kind where people wear Tyvek body suits, booties, etc.). But just because something is used in a particular application doesn't mean that that's the only application where it makes sense to use that thing. The rationale for using that level of filtration in a wood shop is not to keep the wood shop absolutely free of dust--it's to remove as much dust from the shop as possible. In other words, the driving priniciple is minimization. Wood dust is a known carcinogen. Even if you don't get all of it, the more of it that you do get, the better off you are.
"If you are not collecting and removing 100% of the dust through this process, your after filter efficiency is not protecting you from the ultra fine dust that will become airborne and subsequently inhaled."
You'll never get all of it, but you should be able to get the majority of it, 99% or better. And a shop air cleaner is designed to get the residual that the dust collector doesn't get.
-Steve
Realizing that there is a point of diminishing returns, and that it is not possible to capture 100% of the airborne dust generated (in my shop anyway), I still want to capture as much dust as possible, within the constraint of the budget I'm willing and able to expend towards this effort.
Does that help?
Jeff
Steve & Jeff,
I did not want to imply that one should not make best effort to eliminate as much dust as possible.
My question is, after all of the technology is deployed, do our best efforts leave the shop air breathable?
The dust that get to the cyclone is under control. What about the dust that does not make it to the cyclone?
What do those who have upgraded their systems find?
Don
There's no way to know for sure without doing an actual test. Equipped with one of the particle counters mentioned in another thread here, you should be able to determine if your shop is below the ACGIH standards:
Limit (mg/m3)
Long term, hardwoods
1
Long term, softwoods
5
Short term
10
-Steve
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