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   Dave45 | Dec 10, 2008 05:34pm | #1

   I upgraded my Jet 1100 with the Dust Dog pleated canister last year and absolutely love it. I also use the heavy plastic bags inside the cloth collection bag. (I only use the cloth bag for the "snap ring" that holds it inside the DC body.)

   A couple of tips for you:

   Give the cleaning paddles a few turns every day or so. The really fine dust (from sanding) collects in the pleats and can reduce the effeciency of your DC.

   When you empty the collection bag, give the paddles lots of turns before you remove the canister - and then remove it VERY CAREFULLY. Lots of dust will remain in the pleats even after turning the paddles, and a slight bump will create a large dust cloud.

   After I change the collection bag, I use the shop vac with a brush attachment to clean the pleats before I put it back together.

   I have a 4" gated port at my workbench where I connect hand sanders, the biscuit joiner, OSS, pocket screw jig, etc to the DC. With everything cleaned up and reassembled, that port will almost suck small tools off of the opposite wall. - lol

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   bricofleur | Dec 11, 2008 04:27am | #3

   Thanks for the tips Dave. I was able to imagine small tools being sucked in !

   The company representative told me in fact to turn the handle regularly and he also added to regularly use compressed air from the outside in to blow the fine dust out of the fleats, which I find wise.

   Best,

   Serge- Learn from yesterday, work today, and enjoy success tomorrow -

   http://www.atelierdubricoleur.spaces.live.com

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   Dave45 | Dec 11, 2008 08:28am | #5

   I've never blown out my canister from the outside, but I could see how it might work.That 4" gate also serves as an effeciency monitor. When the system is cleaned up and running at its best, the open port makes a high pitched moaning/shrieking sound. As the dust builds up in the pleats, the noise has a lower pitch and the volume goes down. A few spins of the paddles and the volume and pitch go back up. Sorta like SWMBO when I track sawdust into the house. - lol

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   bricofleur | Dec 12, 2008 08:46pm | #6

   I did notice the sound from the system. As you did I will try to get use to it so I would know when doing my homework... or shopwork !

   Since I'm French speaking, I have my limits to understand abreviations like SWMBO. I need your help here, so I would laugh also !!!

   Best,

   Serge- Learn from yesterday, work today, and enjoy success tomorrow -

   http://www.atelierdubricoleur.spaces.live.com

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   Dave45 | Dec 12, 2008 09:00pm | #7

   Gee, I didn't notice an accent - lol. SWMBO = She Who Must Be Obeyed. I believe that SWMBO actually originated in England. In the British comedy "Rumpole Of The Bailey", the lead character often referred to his wife as "She Who Must Be Obeyed".

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   JerryPacMan | Dec 12, 2008 09:11pm | #8

   SWMBO = She Who Must Be Obeyed

   Check the link below for definitions of acronyms.

   http://www.netlingo.com/lookup.cfm?term=SWMBO

    

   Life is what happens to you when you're making other plans .

   "Life is not a success only journey."  Dr. Phil

   Edited 12/12/2008 1:12 pm ET by JerryPacMan

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   Tinkerer3 | Dec 13, 2008 03:55am | #9

   Some of we English speaking folks don't know the abbreviation either until it is explained to us.

   Edited 12/12/2008 7:56 pm ET by Tinkerer3

   Edited 12/14/2008 12:43 am ET by Tinkerer3

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   bricofleur | Dec 13, 2008 08:59pm | #10

   Thanks, I feel better now !

   It's awful how often we use abreviations now (in both French & English). I wonder how and when it started ? When I was young I heard about the World War I and World War II. Now it's WW1 & WW 2.

   MC&HNY to all.

   Best,

   Serge- Learn from yesterday, work today, and enjoy success tomorrow -

   http://www.atelierdubricoleur.spaces.live.com

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   Tinkerer3 | Dec 15, 2008 01:10am | #13

   Not sure when it started but the US government surely hasn't discouraged it.  They abbreviate when possible and then make words out of the abbreviations.  Some day they'll abbreviate those words.  By the way, for being french speaking, you handle English very well - better than a lot of our residents do.  I say residents because a lot of residents are not citizens.

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   bricofleur | Dec 15, 2008 07:11pm | #14

   In fact, I worked for federal government and we did used a lot of abreviations As example, I worked in HR for HRDC, EIC and DVA. I've been a CR, a PE and finally an OM.

   Thanks, I make my best to understand and to be understoud. I must admit that I reach for my dictionaries every single day. Having a bilingual website is a good practice for, in fact, both languages.

   I believe there are few 'residants' in your area, reason why you were so precise ?

   Best,

   Serge- Learn from yesterday, work today, and enjoy success tomorrow -

   http://www.atelierdubricoleur.spaces.live.com

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   zolton | Dec 11, 2008 03:52am | #2

   Another reasonable option is the "Shaker Felt" bags offered by Highland Hardware. I don't have their catalog right here, but I seem to recall that they're rated at 5 micron or so.

   I bought one for my older Jet two-bag dust collector (which, since I now have a cyclone for my major dust-producing tools, only serves my sliding miter saw), and it was worked very well. Though it filters finer dust than the original bags that came with the dust collector, there is more air passing through, so the efficiency has improved - and again, most importantly, more of the finer bits are being strained out of the air.

   I had originally intended to replace both the top and bottom bags with the Shaker Felt ones. But after I put just the top bag on I decided to experiment with the lower bag to see what I could get away with.

   It made no sense to replace the top bag and leave the orginal bottom one in place. That wouldn't have resulted in much of an overall improvement in the air quality. So I got a big plastic bag and stuffed that inside the original bottom bag and slid everything back on the dust collector, securing them both in place with the metal band clamp. The original bag is now acting like a containment net to hold the plastic bag in place.

   It works just great, and the price of the Shaker Felt bag was quite a bit below what I priced out for a canister filter. I think I paid 30-35 bucks or so.

   So, another option for those of you looking to upgrade...

   Zolton

   If you see a possum running around in here, kill it. It's not a pet. - Jackie Moon

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   bricofleur | Dec 11, 2008 04:38am | #4

   Thanks Zolton,

   I had this felt option as you mentionned but I couldn't use it. The tools retailer said the felt restrains the air flow and to compensate I would have to install a higher or longer bag. Since my workshop is in the basement, and since it doesn't have enough head room over the dust collector, I was not able to upgrade in this fashion. That was 2-3 years ago.

   I know I paid more for the canister filter but my options were very limited. And since my workshop is within the house, I had to do something. For sure the canister filter really improve the air flow and suction.

   Best,

   Serge

    - Learn from yesterday, work today, and enjoy success tomorrow -

   http://www.atelierdubricoleur.spaces.live.com

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   woodhacker | Dec 13, 2008 11:12pm | #11

   My experience in replacing the standard bags with felt bags was that air flow was actually improved. The standard bags would immediately pop to fully inflated (and send up a monstrous cloud of dust) whenever the collector was turned on. When I installed the felt bags I found they inflated slowly when the collector was turned on. Whereas the inflated stock bags were "rock hard", the inflated felt bags could easily be depressed by hand. I got tired of the mess of emptying the bags and installed an Oneida Dust Gorilla, which of course came with a canister. I had an extra canister on hand (which I'd purchased with hopes of using on my dust collector) that was the same diameter as that on the Oneida and added that to the stock canister, doubling the filter area and making it just a little quieter. For cleaning the canister filters I use compressed air. Works great.
   I'm now working on trying to seal up the blast gates in the system. These things leak quite a bit, and since I've got over 30 of them in my system I'm guessing they combine to decrease the overall system performance.

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   zolton | Dec 14, 2008 02:24am | #12

   Hacker,

   Your experience with felt bags and their inflation mirrors my own. That's why I was able to replace just the top bag of my two-bag Jet dust collector and install a plastic bag on the bottom. The felt passed enough air through that the fan wasn't overworking. It was a great improvement over the original bags - and a worthy upgrade for $30-$40 bucks.

   Good luck sealing up all those blast gates. 30 of them? Why so many? Do you have that many tools hooked up the system? In comparison I'm a piker - only 4 machines on my cyclone. Something to aspire to, I guess...

   Zolton If you see a possum running around in here, kill it. It's not a pet. - Jackie Moon