Hi to all. 1st post for me. (Just joined yesterday).
I have never used commercial drawer slides and need to know about getting the right length slides for my application.
I am planning on using them in kitchen cabinets. They will be full extension slides. I figure I will have 22 1/2″ from the inside of the face frame to the inside of the cabinet backpanel, so I should get 22 inch slides. Or am I wrong and the manufacturers mark their slides 24 inches for standard kitchen cabinets?
Also, can anyone recommend one brand or type over another?
I found these on E-bay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5929232817&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT any opinions?
Thanks, Gary
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I use 20" slides on 20" drawer boxes and a false front covers the ends of the slides. For your use, 22" sounds fine.
I have always used KV slideswith no complaints. I can't imagine needing 100# slides on kitchen drawers, unless you have a slide out microwave or similar. I don't know anything about Gliderite, but that is a terrific price. I pay nearly twice that for much lighter duty KV.
Rob -
Since you brought up the subject of weight rating, I can't for the life of me understand how an Accuride full extension slide that's rated for 100# could actually support that much weight anyway. Closed I can see it. But when I pull out one of the slides (they're not installed yet, I'd be surprised if it would carry 50# at full extension. Is that what the rating refers to? Assuming a pair of slides supporting 100# or 50# each slide .... at full extension?
Guess I could hang a 50# bag of sand off one and see. (grin)
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From Beautiful Skagit Co. Wa.
Dennis
It's supposed to hold 100# at full extension. I just assumed that the reputable companies are telling close to the truth. The only ones I've seen holding nearly that much weight are file cabinets, and they seem to work OK. Why not go to the GlideRite web site and ask them who uses their stuff, and call the user and get an opinion?
Rob -
My assumption is that since a pair is rated at #100, each slide should support #50. Thus I intend to attach one of my slides to a piece of plywood and perform the ultimate experiment (grin)
To be continued ......
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From Beautiful Skagit Co. Wa.
Dennis
Thanks for everyones input. I think rick3ddd may be right, but I will still probably make a mock-up out of scrap so I dont have to make the same thing twice. I can't help it about making things complicated. It's a curse.
I found this article concerning weight ratings http://www.woodweb.com/knowledge_base/Rating_drawer_slides.html (complicated way to rate drawer slides)
Gary M
The brands you need to know about are Grass, Blum, and Accuride -- KV are okay too.
If you're just getting started, I would select either Grass or Blum for 3/4 extension slides, and Accuride for full extension. Each of these outfits make a variety of different slides for various applications.
The Glide Rite slides may be perfectly good, but I have never heard of them, and I would be inclined to pass them by for one of the more standard brands. They may be a line that is manufacturered exclusively for the furniture industry, and not marketed to the independent cabinet making trade.
The length is determined by the depth of your cabinet. Sounds like 22" is perfect. You need some rear brackets for the slides or other means of fastening. Some faceframe builders like the adjustability of the brackets without having to build out cleats. You don't ever want to try to cut the slides down. Most full extension slides are a bit stiffer operating than ordinary slides. You need to very precise with sizing the width of your drawers and set up the slides square and level. The new trend seems to be the bottom mount full extension slides in kitchens. They have a much lighter hand but aren't for heavy loads. More forgiving to install plus they don't show.
Have not used the brand you listed. Most of my experience has been with KV with no problems.
Beat it to fit / Paint it to match
I think you are making it way too complicated. You can get installation instructions which will tell you everything you need to know. Also technical help is available from most reputable dealers. I would suggest you start with a place like http://www.rocklers.com Accuride is a good brand but you can other stuff cheaper. You should go to a hardware store and actually look at the stuff. It's not that hard to figure it out. Go to some places with kitchen displays and see what they are using and that way you can get a feel for how well the slides work. Just do it!!
"Just Do It!!"<--- I like it! Forces u to do it without being scared...
Accuride. Made in California and I like the cam adjustment.Regards,
Boris
"Sir, I may be drunk, but you're crazy, and I'll be sober tomorrow" -- WC Fields, "Its a Gift" 1934
One feature I really like about Accuride slides is the cam adjustment that allows a bit of "tweaking" to get the alignment just right without having to completely re-mount the slide. This is a godsend on those oh-so-rare occasions <grin> when my drawer carcass isn't dead-on.
Personally, I like the Blum Tandem slides. They're heavy duty but completly invisable once installed. You should have the slide in hand before making the drawers. Construction of the drawer varies slightly with the use of this slide. The only drawback is the cost ($20-$25 per set). Do a search on the internet for these slides. You'll find a number of distributors. Each will give you drawer lenghts, minumum inside depth, etc. so you can pick out the right slide for your application.
Chip
Don't waste your time or money on less than full extension slides. Its fine for the slide to be slightly longer than the drawer box. The price on ebay is fair and the slides will be fine for the kitchen.
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