My shop is connected to the house and you have to pass through it to get to the garage. The shop is equipped with dust collection at each machine and an overhead filter. There is weather stripping around the door. While all that is very helpful, some fine dust STILL gets through the door and messes up the house. I’m looking for some kind of dust door to put over the doorway that can be rolled up at the end of a work day and still allows easy entry when it is down – perhaps a zipper. Any suggestions?
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Dust Free Here
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>some kind of ç door to put over the doorway that can be rolled up at the end of a work day and still allows easy entry when it is down - perhaps a zipper. <
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NO ! (i'm in command of my emotions, i'm in command of my emotions . . . as Mr Spock is my teacher and having completed my mental training on the home world of Vulcan . . . I'm . . . )
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I have a few things here to post that have helped me . . . see photos :
Shop shoes change at the door to the shop. If the right shoes easier than you might think. These have the added benefit of having the exact same material on the bottom as cushioned shop mats so no need to have mats all over the shop to trip over right.
Then
Keep the dust offenders under lock and key until they learn how to behave in a useful and non disruptive manner. Note the hermetically sealed confinement areas with many containers on top to discourage visitation.
Then
Enlist low dust chip producers into the shop. Quiet as can be too.
Then
Let us not forget proper nutrition. Has the added benefit of when you are upstairs in front of the boob tube or computer (as I am right now ) you are not causing unsightly dust and mayhem in the shop.
And finally
and I have not had to resort to this too often, thank God, an auxiliary shop vac and regulation shop vac dust brush , sanitized of course, in the clean living space. Mostly I use it for when I trim my whiskers but you never know.
One never knows.
Maybe it is something we ate
Queenmasteroftheuniverseandbabybunnytrainer was getting ready to go to bed and she ask me to shut the "spider door". What she meant was that my shop door was open to the house and she can't fall asleep until I shut it. She said " I have seen some of the things that have crawled out of there.
I said " like me for instance ". She was diplomatically quiet.
That made me think about this dust door post so I told her about it. Now admittedly she had a long day and after eight hours in front of the computer and dealing with clients her brain was somewhere between silly putty and a shook up soda pop.
When I said "some kind of dust door to put over the doorway that can be rolled up at the end of a work day . . . maybe something with a zipper" she began to laugh ( just as I had ).
Then she went in to brushing her teeth. Soon after she was laughing so hard she had to put down her tooth brush. She made a tour through the house trying to distract herself and get it together. She was quiet for a little while and then said " maybe something with a zipper " and started howling with laughter all over again. I don't know where she is right now but I can hear her cackling uncontrollably saying " my stomach . . . it hurts. . . . no more". This has been going on now for quite a while and she is still at it.
I had to share that. It isn't just me. Maybe it is something we been eating. But that's some funny stuff.
Zippers
Somewhere I saw an ad for dust control between rooms that were being renovated.
After the room was sealed off with plastic sheeting, a closed zipper could be placed anywhere on the sheet you wanted it. Paper backing was removed from the zipper back and the zip was pressed to the sheet where it stuck fast. Then the zip was unzipped and a box cutter was used to make a slit between the two sides of the zipper, and there was a custom zip just where you needed it. You could create different sized openings with two or more zips, say two in an inverted V to make a door wide at the bottom and narrow at the top where one's pointy little head would go thru, or two zips at the edges of the door so that the center flap could be rolled up at the end of the day. I thought this might work for me at the bottom of the basement stairs where the shop is. Then there would be a real door at the top of the stairs and the plastic at the bottom. Instant air lock. I could get out my MOPP gear, put on the Tyvec suit and rubber boots, gas mask and back pack with the epi pen that runs a big spring loaded needle thru your thumb when in your haste to stab yourself in the butt you get the pen backwards, and watch the fluid spurting from the needle sticking out of your thumb nail... but I digress.
Needle and Thumb Nail and All
Swenson,
You sure know how to have a good time.
: )
PS: Queenmasteroftheuniverseandbabybunnytrainer used to work with and later manage a clean room with a particle implanter for computer chip fabrication so she has a pretty good idea of what an air lock and dust control is all about.
Ever see the movie Glass Bottom Boat ? I think having the grate covered person shaker thing is going to be a must. Now how is this going to work . . . every time a guy has to go to the can he zippers into the special door area, takes off the dusty clothes and shoes, vacs or shampoos his hair then zippers again into a clean area and puts on dust free clothes then opens and goes through the door ?
Reverse the process minus the shampoo to get back to work ? I thought changing shoes every little bit, more and more the older I get, was tedious.
I would just put up a sign in the living room "Saw Dust is a Protective Covering For Furniture " and have done with it. We have our windows open as much as possible for fresh air and we have dust from that. I know the dust isn't from my work shop because I rarely go there and work. Always in this dammed chat room or at my day job.
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every time a guy has to go to the can
The year before we took Iraq, they asked me to sign up for imbed training and I thought they said in bed training so I said sure thing, sounds like fun. Well let me tell you it was a strange week with a British SAS guy, learning how to get into MOPP gear while holding our breath with our eyes closed. Now the reason I brought this up is your question about going to the can. They taught us how to do that too, in full gear, and I gotta say a contortionist would have had trouble. The highlight of the week was one afternoon when he opened up a big box to hand out some new gear. He was always doing that, tossing out new stuff to test for bio and chem. and radiation hazards and such, or packets of Fullers earth to soak up nasty stuff. When he opened the box a smoke bomb went off and he starts screaming "GAS! GAS! GAS!” That means that you have to stop breathing at once, even if you had just exhaled (Bill Clinton would have been good at this), close your eyes, take off your pack and open it, find your gas mask inside hopefully on top, don it and clear it with whatever breath you had in your lungs and then start on the suit, gloves and boots. Gee I miss those days. Now my wife is yelling DUST! DUST! DUST! I try to blame it on the chemicals that are in the water that runs thru our humidifier but she ain’t buying it.
You Live Kind of A Secret Agent Sort of Life Don't You
>get into MOPP gear while holding our breath with our eyes closed.<
Hey that's what I need for when the diesel pickup trucks pass me while I am riding my bike to work. Diesel crazy here and they "tune" 'em NOT. The attraction completely escapes me. Don't have to go to Iraq to get hosed by deadly gas.
I was talking to one of my old bosses the other day and he said he rented a midsize diesel car while in Europe not long ago. He said one couldn't tell it was a diesel; didn't sound like a trash can full of marbles and fire crackers and didn't stink black soot.
Yah . . . may be you could send me some of that MOPP.
MOPP gear. Immediately, I thought of:
R. I say R-A. R-A-G. R-A-G-G. R-A-G-G--M-O-P-P. Ragmop! Doodooloodoodoo.Ragmop!!
Beanie and Cecil. Took me longer to think of Beanie and Cecil (the seasick seaserpent) than that stupid song, which is even now worming its way into my skull.
Thanks a lot. Can't remember what I had for lunch yesterday, but songs from a cartoon that is 50 yrs old, no problem.
Ray
It's not Doodooloodoodoo, It's "Doodle-lee aaaah ba daba"
I used to know what MOPP stood for, I'll have to look it up. By the way the song was WWII I believe, Andrews Sisters maybe. If C the SSS and Beanie sang it, they weren't the first. GS
Can't remember what I had for lunch yesterday
Ray
This is a true story. Years ago we were doing an interview with the Dali Lama and Koppel asks him "I understand your followers believe you to be the tenth (can't remember the right number) incarnation of Buddha. Tell me, do you remember anything of your past life?"
And so help me the Dali Lama sez "Hell Ted, sometimes I can't remember what I did yesterday."
but I can hear her cackling uncontrollably saying " my stomach . . . it hurts. . . . no more". This has been going on now for quite a while and she is still at it.
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
That photo aught to keep her laughing. I would show her now but she is cooking dinner with her last ounce of strength and concentration before she falls apart. She just told her best friend on the phone to hang up 'cause she didn't have the energy to talk now so I don't want to push it. No she doesn't want the "stress" of me "helping". Best to lie low right now.
Negative pressure
The answer to your problem may be to create negative pressure in the shop compared to the adjacent rooms. That is how they control air flow in labs. So talk to a mechanical contractor about what it would take to have an a continuously operating fan pull air from the shop. A heat exchanger would be a good idea but the supply should dump into the house, not the shop.
My problem with dust leaving the shop has more to do with my feet than the air. The stuff just sticks to the shoes and I forget to wipe them and soon my wife is yelling "there's sawdust everywhere!"
But it is such a small price to pay.
Peter
wife is yelling "there's sawdust everywhere!"
We need to all get together and come up with some answers to hold the wives at bay long enough to get out of the house or back into the shop. I'll start the David Letterman top ten list with Number Ten
10 It must be the termites.
9
9. It must be your mother. My shoes are bigger.
I found the dorway zippers.
I found the zippers I mentioned . page 279 of the Lee Valley & Veritas catalog, "Peel and Stick Zippers" $9.95
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