Determining what 2 Pay 4 Used Equipment
I have an opportunity to p/u a used Jet 22-44 Drum Sander from a door maker who is closing. How do you generally choose a price for such used equipment? I searched closed auctions at eBay, but couldn’t find any used ones. I’m assuming this means these are good pieces of machinery and are seldom sold.
This one was used for about a year. The owner said it was not good for a door shop, but he thought it would be ideal for a cabinetmaker. He made entryway and interior doors for homes.
Can anyone tell me what to look for as I evaluate this equipment? I saw a 2/0 door which he sanded on it. The door felt good with no waves.
The sander has been removed from its stand b/c he has to be out tomorrow. I still may be able to run a test piece tomorrow. He is motivated in that he doesn’t want to move it and has no place to store it.
Greg
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Basic rule of thumb generalization for most machines is half of new price as a guideline .
Greg,
I am not familiar with this Jet machine, so I can only comment in general about used sanders. You should try to get Rich14 to weigh in on this; he probably knows the specific machine you are looking at.
Sanders are a lot more delicate and problematic than other woodworking machinery, and don't tolerate freeplay and slop that in other places are easily dealt with. I'd look for the following:
1. Change the sanding belt. How easy is it to do?
2. Run a narrow piece through the machine on one side, not in the middle. Does the belt stay on track?
3. Run a very wide piece through. Take your calipers and check if the thickness is identical on both sides.
4. Take more of a bite than you're supposed to. What happens?
If everything checks out, go ahead and bid. You might look on http://www.exfactory.com to see if there's one of these on sale. They're one of the biggest sites for used WW machinery. Even for a 1-year old machine, don't pay more than 2/3 the price of new. If you pay good money for it, try getting a 30-day trial period. If the seller is desperate, bid low. What've you got to lose?
David Ring
http://www.touchwood.co.il/?id=1&lang=e
Half of new with considerations of up to 66% or basically 2/3 if in exceptional condition with low run time and all components functioning properly. And don't buy it sight un-seen is my rule.
Good luck...
Sarge..
Ok this might seem simplistic but.....ask him what he wants for it. key to negociating............ let him make the first move. Now you know the baseline. Is the price comfy for you? if it is.offer 25-30% less........you can always go up.
Sounds like this isnt a tool everyone has or therefore, wants. The most he can say is "no". Then you have to detremine what its worth to you. Who cares what everyone else thinks its worth..it will do the job for you and at what price are you comfy with.
Thats how I negociate
Wicked Decent Woodworks
(oldest woodworking shop in NH)
Rochester NH
" If the women dont find you handsome, they should at least find you handy........yessa!"
The Jet is the same as the Performax 22-44 I believe. I have that one and with a closed stand it was $1400 two years ago. It is a great sander. Base your offer on condition and the estimates of percentage already suggested on Knots. I always insist that the owner make the first offer, It is his property and it is up to him to tell you what he wants. If it is a good deal you can say yes. If it is way overpriced you can say that you will pass. If the price is in the ball park of what you think it is worth maybe you can make a counter offer a bit cheaper and go from there. I have never gone to a store and have a sales person ask what I will give them for the item they are selling. The seller ALWAYS sets the asking price, and you go from there. Hope this helps.
Bruce
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