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   dustinf | May 18, 2005 10:14pm | #1

   http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00004T7OQ.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

   I use that counter sink, in combination with whatever drill bit I need.  I've got a surplus of cordless drills so most drilling operations require 2 drills, and an impact driver.

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   nikkiwood | May 18, 2005 11:33pm | #2

   I have bought the "jack rabbit" magnetic disc for about $10. That, plus a longer insert bit is all you need. I think the $70-80 is for some kind of kit they are pushing. Look again on their web site for the disc only.

   However, I found the disc worked great for a few months, and then lost some of its magnetism. Maybe it can be "recharged" by affixing it to some big old magnet for a few days?

   I too used the gismo you're talking about, but I found it easier to buy a set of counter sink/ drill bits in various sizes. They're widely available -- Rockler, Woodcraft, most good hdwr stores.

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   GHR | May 19, 2005 02:24am | #3

   Fuller makes combinations of drills, copuntersinks, and counterbores.

   I use them for screws.

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   MarkRD | May 19, 2005 02:27am | #4

   I use ones like Lee Valley (A, B, and C in the photo below) Though I think mine are Vermont American. I love them and use them a lot...http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/page.aspx?c=2&p=40127&cat=3,41306,41328Of course, I have two drills so one is setup with the screwdriver bit and the other with the countersink.MarkMeasure it with a micrometer, mark it with chalk, cut it with an ax.

   Edited 5/18/2005 7:27 pm ET by Mark

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   polarsea1 | May 19, 2005 08:06am | #5

   I've had a set of the Fullers for about 20 years and although I use them I wish the countersinks would clear chips better. After sinking about 1/4" it's smoke city. The original tapered drill bits did the same thing.

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   mikegagne | May 19, 2005 10:25am | #6

   Fuller makes countersinks in 1/32 increments that have adjustable taper bits. I have used them for years, have learned how to resharpen them in a pinch and cannot work without them. Aloha, Mike

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   user-343246 | May 19, 2005 04:43pm | #7

   Get the Fuller taper drills with countersinks.  You don't need the whole set.  Just buy the #6 and #8 sizes (maybe the #10).  I like to drill with an old Milwaukee with a real chuck.  The hand tite type chucks drive me nuts.  Get an el-cheapo cordless for driving the screws.  Screws tend to go in better if you rub them in beeswax before driving them home.

   I bought a cheap set of countersinks a few years ago.  They were terrible.  I took them back a week later and bought the fullers.

   Matt

    

    

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   WillGeorge | May 19, 2005 06:19pm | #8

   Gee now don't get Mad at me..  BUT use TWO drills.. You will be MUCH happier.. I am!

   
   

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   Edited 5/19/2005 11:20 am ET by Will George

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   macalex | May 20, 2005 06:10am | #10

   I'm with Mr George. Buy 3 or 4 drills! Mount them on a holster-style wall hanger near where you work. Drill in 1, counter-sink in 1, driver in the 3rd ... and one just because it was cheap!

   MalcolmNew Zealand  |  New Thinking0.06% of the world's people are Kiwis

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   WillGeorge | May 21, 2005 03:09am | #11

   Kiwi..

   My only problem is at my age I forget where I set the 'other drill!'

    

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   macalex | May 21, 2005 03:47am | #12

   "at my age I forget where I set the 'other drill!'"

   Not a trivial issue, Will.

   There's both tactics and strategy. I'm more and more inclined to have a fixed place for workshop essentials (that's the strategy), and put them back as soon as I finish (the tactics).

   When I set out to set up a commercially-capable workshop, I spent a few weeks (of spare time and weekends) to dedicating a space for everything. And if I couldn't find a space, it wasn't an essential, so it got 'disposed' of.

   It's working!

   Malcolm

   ps - When you can't remember where the fixed items are (the planer, the SCMS, the ...) it's time to give up. You're a danger to yourself!

    New Zealand  |  New Thinking0.06% of the world's people are Kiwis

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   WillGeorge | May 22, 2005 11:07pm | #13

   Not a trivial issue, Will.

   Why I have four drills layin'  around at ALL times!

   I get really upset when I forget where the DOOR is!

    

   Edited 5/22/2005 4:09 pm ET by Will George

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   forestgirl | May 19, 2005 08:01pm | #9

   I picked up a set by Porter Cable a few years ago.  It releases by sliding the sleeve toward the tip, which is a natural move.  Locks by sliding it toward the drill.  Any wobble disappears when either the drill or the driver is engaged in a working situation.

   The price was excellent -- on sale at Lowe's for about $20.  Problem is I don't think the make it anymore!  Of course, it has the "too short" problem just like most of the inexpensive sets. 

   In case you're not familiar with Fuller mentioned above, here's their web site:
   http://www.wlfuller.com

    

   forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
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