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   DougGF | Oct 29, 2009 10:51pm | #1

   There is no rule that says which comes first.  If you build a pattern of the shape of the top and cooper to the pattern then it should fit regardless of which comes first.  The few pieces I've built however, the top came last.

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   Eef | Oct 29, 2009 11:28pm | #2

   m,
   when you say coopering, are you not referring to a radius shaped lid taken from a full diameter? what i mean is: if i want to make a domed lid for a box i first decide how many edge mitered pieces i want in the thing. 360 deg divided by, say, eight sides means i'll be edge mitering to 22 1/2 degrees. does this make sense?
   eef

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   MARQUETRY | Oct 29, 2009 11:51pm | #3

   yes it does.  Do I put that angle on both sides of each board or leave one at 0 degrees and the other at the angle for the nmber of boards I need.

    

   Thnaks for the help.

    

   Marquetry

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   Eef | Oct 30, 2009 12:53am | #4

   marq,
   yes, tilt your saw blade to the correct angle and miter both edges. be sure that the sharp edge of the first cut does not slip under any small gap between the bottom of your fence and the saw top. perhaps a sacrificial fence is called for. also, gluing those multiple edges together might be challenging. i do it by taping the back of all the parts across the grain with as many strips of tape as needed, lay the whole affair top-side down, apply glue in the joints, push the edges into position, stand it on end, place a piece of plywood the same width and length as the lid and apply pressure by tying string or rope and tightening the loops of string or rope as one would a tourniquet.hope this makes sense, yet again.
   eef

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   MARQUETRY | Oct 30, 2009 03:05am | #5

   Thanks alot!  I think I can handle it now.

    

   I really appreciate all the help everyone has given.

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   derekcohen | Oct 30, 2009 08:46am | #6

   There is a pictorial in my blog that may help: https://www.finewoodworking.com/item/13200/coopering-a-box-lid

   Regards from Perth

   Derek

    

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   MARQUETRY | Oct 30, 2009 07:15pm | #7

   Derek,

   Thank you for responding.

   Your blog instructions are very straight forward and pictures complete th process.  Great!!!

   After drawing the angles on the end pieces, wouldn't it be easier to saw off the waste rather than chiseling?

   How thick was the wood that you used?

   Marquetry

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   derekcohen | Oct 30, 2009 07:43pm | #8

   Hi Marquetry

   You asked ..

   After drawing the angles on the end pieces, wouldn't it be easier to saw off the waste rather than chiseling?

   No. The surface angles are never exact. The profile needs to be scribed so that it fits exactly. Chiseling is more accurate than sawing.

   How thick was the wood that you used?

   From memory it was around 1/4" (perhaps 3/8") thick.

   Regards from Perth

   Derek

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   derekcohen | Nov 01, 2009 04:52pm | #9

   Here is a bit more to add to the blog.

   I am in the process of building another box with a coopered lid (this one ordered by my better half). The lid is done.

   View Image

    This time I hollowed the interior as well - with a Round plane...

   View Image

   This is the current state - rough box, freshly dovetailed and glued. Still to be planed, etc.

   View Image

   Regards from Perth

   Derek

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   MARQUETRY | Nov 01, 2009 07:00pm | #10

   Thanks Derek!

    

   Marquetry