I’d like to make a brass bound box (or maybe even boxes) but I have no idea as to the adhesive to use. As these boxes have been made for hundreds of years there’s got to be a way that even us moderns can do it–? Any other hints that I’d need will be appreciated.
Haker
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Epoxy is one way. Mechanical fasteners such as machine screws is another option I've used. Frames can be soldered and the wood fitted to the frame.
Thanks for the info on the binding of brass--I wonder if the old timers used hide glue as epoxies were hardly available?
Many years ago when my wife and were touring England I "fell" for the beautiful boxes and should have bought a few--in fact a lot--because the prices today will knock your socks off! I just didn't look at them closely enough to see how they were made.
Haker
Morning Haker,
I found a few more links that might be useful. Looks like hygra.com has many links.
This one, if you scroll down through the pics you can see a lot of the construction details. I'm sorry but I don't know how they were actually constructed but it looks like the sides are mitred then connected with brass corner plates, at least in some of them.
http://www.hygra.com/uk/wb/wb101/index.htm
One of these have dovetail sides so I would guess construction details varied.
http://hygra.com/uk/jb/jb125/
Here's another. Click on the numbers and it shows details about the point(s) referenced.
I found these by entering construction of brass bound boxes in the Google search box.
Regards,Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Bob,
Thanks for those links - the boxes are inspirational and one has gone on my to-do list. I have made a few things with flush brass handles, brass corners and brass locks but never anything quite so brass-bound as the stuff you supplied the link to.
That Philip makes campaign furniture - Victorian-style KD furniture used by the British Hofficer Class when abroad, bashin' folk for queen and country. It has a lot of brass fitment, to aid the knock-down and also to protect the corners and such. I've often thought of making a piece in the campaign style, especially after seeing Mr Marcou's fine work.
One o' them boxes would be good practice and would stimulate the search for brassware. I wonder if you know a good source for the sort of stuff seen inlaid in the Hydra pages.......?
Lataxe
Lataxe Young Gent,
Try this: http://www.wnwoodworks.com/ Horton Brasses, Inc.
I also have a bunch an old time furniture maker gave me. I'll look on the boxes for a name. Also searched Google for brass furniture hardware and got several links. There's some great hits from that!
Hope Mr. Marcou might chip in here. These look like a lot of fun.
Regards,
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Edited 10/18/2007 12:02 pm ET by KiddervilleAcres
Edited 10/18/2007 12:08 pm ET by KiddervilleAcres
Lataxe,
Almost forgot, probably the best one! http://www.whitechapel-ltd.com/hardware/reproduction/furniture_reproduction_hardware.shtml
Regards,Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Bob,
Thanks for those links and apologies for being too lazy to look on the web meself. (I was sort of hoping you had already found the definitive brass-bound box-makers'store).
The difficult bits seem to be the stringing and inlayed motifs. I imagine these would have to be made from sheet or bar stock, which is another interesting aspect of such items. I am off to search for such stock, which I'm assuming can be worked with hacksaws and files.
Where is that Philip, with a pearl or two of brass-related knowledge?
Lataxe
PS Samson's step is quite inspirational too, as you noted. Perhaps this is a turning of the tide in Knots, at least until the next storm-surge. It is pleasant to contemplate things to make rather than get "lessons" about what we shouldn't oughta do, for a change. I am off to put a camber on me BU blade in anticipation. :-)
Lataxe,
You can cut thin brass stock wi yo bandsaw too, and no drift. Course if ya thinkin o resawing tick stock that might be a different matter. :-)
Yes it is most refreshing to talk woodworking. I like the discussion with regard to the technicallities and certainly new fodder for the brain.
These brass bound boxes are most interesting. Do keep us posted if you find any good reads regarding same. The White Chapel stuff looks real nice. Again, I'll look in my metal stash for more.
Regards,
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Edited 10/18/2007 3:46 pm ET by KiddervilleAcres
haker,
Is this what you're talking about? http://www.hygra.com/uk/jb/jb122/back_to_other_pictures6.htm
I also some others on eBay but a much different configuration, ornate brass trimming with what appear to be coopered tops. Google brings up references to treens when I search for brass bound boxes?
Regards,
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Edited 10/2/2007 1:59 pm ET by KiddervilleAcres
Just a thought on working with brass.
Why not Google around for model Railroading/Brass/Soldering Etc.
I use to make models of all types but long ago and as I remember the model train builders used a lot of brass and as a group they willingly share most of their 'tricks'.
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