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   roc | Oct 19, 2009 01:12am | #1

   Ok. the amazing but true story I promised.

   Back ground on me :

   I was a wimp nurd kid in grade school. Used to cry when forced to run the 600 yard run for the presidents fitness tests/awards. I used to walk part of it and cry. Booo hooo hooo. I think mostly because I want to decide WHAT I do and WHEN I do it.

   OK fast forward to junior high. I was doing hundred mile bike rides on the highways when I was twelve and thirteen etc. Still could not run for beans. I am not a natural runner just as I am not a natural wood worker. Took a lot of time and effort to get to where I could do either one.

   In my twenties I decided to get to the fitness level required to run a marathon. Twenty six miles.

   Over a couple of years I did it ! and have run a few marathons in the Colorado Mountains.

   Then I got bored with doing all this stuff alone for the most part and started to pursue a life mate with much vigor.

   I would go whole years without running.

   I got into Tai Chi in a half assed sort of way. Off and on. Then I started taking these free Chi Gung classes on thursdays in the park and did some at home on my own. No big daily deal just a couple of times a week.

   I met this woman. She rode bicycles and ran long distance. She was training to do the Pikes Peak Marathon. Run to the top of a 14,000 foot peak and down before dinner time. This is on a narrow trail with boulders part way. The decent is so steep and the footing so critical that if you brake your concentration for an instant to say hello to a hiker coming up you may trip on a root and windmill and or cartwheel for a few hundred feet before you come to a stop. Ask me how I know this.

   : )

   Any way I had not run at all for a year or more. Just the Chi gung and rode my bike to work and did some walking around town.

   I thought I might take up running again if I had company and kept asking this woman if we could run together. She kept saying no that she runs alone but we hung out and rode bikes and went out etc.

   Then one day after my constant asking she said lets go for a run. There was something in her eye that I did not like the look of. But I said great and figured on a quick five mile run to hell with the blisters.

   Here is what she had in mind and how it turned out. HER run was going to be two laps of a trail we have here called Waldo Canyon. One lap is seven miles. She said I could do part of a lap with her and walk the rest back to the car while she did the second lap or perhaps do one full lap with her.

   Translation: she was out to kick my butt so badly I wouldn't ask to run with her any more.

   I ran the first lap with her. NO BLISTERS. I was confused but going with it. I said " I don't have blisters and feel good. I think I can run the second lap ." That pissed her off. The second lap was faster than the first. She was taller than I am and at the end we both were running full out; her looking over her shoulder. She was out a head but I never lost sight of her and finished over fifteen miles of a mountain run after no running for a year.

   If some one described this to me before that I would call them a dumb a$$ and guess they wouldn't be able to walk the next few days from the muscle soreness.

   I had no blisters, very little muscle soreness, we both hiked about eight miles with some friends the next day.

   My chi gung included this " horse stance " while doing the exercises and involved some serious pain in the legs and mental discipline to deal with lactic acid burn but no running. Got to the point where I could stand like that in a deep horse stance for a half hour at a time and if I used the technique of " moving the energy through " the pain would go away and there would just be a " flowing " in its place. That is the best I can describe it.

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_stance

   No pain for me during the run we were just FLYING !

   Didn't have to do with hands and joints you say. OK I had a broken finger as a kid. Always ached deep inside when the weather changed. My wrist and thumb joints popped most of the time just working and my elbow would lock when I moved certain ways and to unlock it I would have to twist me wrist just right.

   After the few months of Chi Gung all this went away and never came back even though I don't practice this stuff much any more.

   Hope this is of interest to someone. Blew me away.

   roc

   Give me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe. Abraham Lincoln ( 54° shaves )

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   KiddervilleAcres | Oct 19, 2009 05:31am | #2

   roc,

   I'm on dial up so it will take a while to see the vids.  So far I've only fallen asleep once.  Today is Saturday, right?

   Did Qm (whatever she does with baby bunnies) have anythang to do with this?

   I'll see ya in six months when I git finished,Bob @ Kidderville Acres

   A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!

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   roc | Oct 19, 2009 06:05am | #3

   Ha, ha, ha, aaahhhh, Ha, ha, ha, haOh man. I figured with that gavel came some secret cool guy hardware/satalite communication cool stuff.Tell 'em at FWW head quarters that they need to supply you with the latest.>Qm (whatever she does with baby bunnies)<Trains 'em. They want to lay in the street. She tries to get across to them that bushes and briars are for bunbuns and streets are for cars. I think I finally figured out why the one jumped back like he had been bit on the nose when he was sniffing at a bug that time.The littlest one hangs out down by this drainage pipe, ~ 4" id, I always see stink bugs around there also. I think he sniffed and got a snoot full. Maybe he was so dizzy and disoriented he didn't realize he was laying in the street.Or else there is something I don't know about the hallucinogenic properties of stink bug stink in large doses.I don't think I will test it out today.Nah I would trade ten of the runner girls for my Qm. It wasn't like in hollywood.You could always contact Park and Rec or one of those and find out if there are any Chi Gung classes going on. Often out side in a park when weather permits. Then just sit in the car and watch. Talk to the teacher afterward.If you have NetFlix which I can whole heartedly recommend for documentaries on other stuff, movies and music. Or a trip to the library to check out a DVD to take home. Be warned some of them get all about projecting this internal energy out ward and stuff.People love a magic show so there are bound to be people to supply that to. It has pretty much been disproved.Use the computers at the library to look at YouTubes ?Time to buy that new WiFi laptop and head to the Star Bucks ? I am on WiFi here at the house and the vids start in seconds.Any way if nothing else six months it is.rocGive me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe. Abraham Lincoln ( 54° shaves )Edited 10/18/2009 11:06 pm by roc <!-- ROC2013 -->

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   WillGeorge | Oct 19, 2009 06:53pm | #4

   Roc..

   NO I did not look at all the videos. I do recall while in China many OLD, very old, and young folks were outside in the morning doing a dance? with silk streamers in their hands. The old folks seemed more graceful than the youngers!

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   wotnow | Oct 19, 2009 09:54pm | #5

   Hi roc

   Bit like Bob here, Our broa...narrowband comes onto the Islands at 8mbs total, to be shared by 2500 people. Fun watching on the activity monitor, counting the electrons as they come in, individually....6,7,8,Zzzzzzzz.

   Looked at a couple of the clips, looks interesting, 'bout my speed.
   Going into the big smoke tomorrow (The only Capital City I believe that doesn't have a Golden Arches Restaurant). Will check out the library for any info on similar. Thanks for your help

   Bruce