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   dirtstirrer | Feb 01, 2004 01:10am | #1

   Congrats!  Hope to do the same thing soon.  Are you going to have it shipped by pro's or some other means?  Seems to be the only drawback to Ebay equipment.

   Steve
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   kensshop | Feb 01, 2004 02:25am | #2

   Going to combine a visit with my brother & sister-in-law and picking up the jointer with a rental truck or tow behind trailor.  Its about 5 1/2 hours from home. 

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   forestgirl | Feb 01, 2004 02:34am | #3

   Congrats, Ken!  Take someone who can drive home, so you can ride in the back with the new toy! forestgirl Another proud member of the  "I Rocked With ToolDoc Club" .... :>)  you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)

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   kensshop | Feb 01, 2004 03:27am | #4

   LOL!!!!!  But that steel's gonna be mighty cold this time of year!!

   Edited 1/31/2004 8:52:12 PM ET by Ken's Shop

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   forestgirl | Feb 01, 2004 03:37am | #5

   Ahhhh, you've got a point there!  A nice warm blankie for the jointer?  Har har har!forestgirl Another proud member of the  "I Rocked With ToolDoc Club" .... :>)  you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)

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   kensshop | Feb 01, 2004 04:56am | #6

   Unless that nut case shooting at motorists around Columbus is stopped soon, I'll not only be wrapping it with a blankie, I'll be looking for a bullet proof vehicle as well!!

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   ian | Feb 03, 2004 01:11pm | #21

   Don't do yourself an injury getting that baby home.  1650 extra lbs takes a lot of stopping, especially in a trailer.  Depending on access to loading docks either end I suggest you get a truck with either a lift gate or Hi-ab and tie it down real well.

   enjoy

   now how will you get it into your shop?

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   kensshop | Feb 03, 2004 02:08pm | #22

   Trailoring arrangements are made.  Securing and wrapping are obvious.  Nice thing, the tables can be removed / replaced without changing specs (rec. Northfield).  I can place the tables in the van to lighten the trailor load.   Northfield also recommends I build a skid to bolt the machine to.  This allows much easier handling.  Getting it on the trailor will be very easy, getting it off at home will require a bit more, but is completely doable.  Appreciate the input.    Ken

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   garth | Feb 01, 2004 06:35am | #7

   Ken

   Congrats, I am a big Northfield fan, one nice jointer.

   Scott T.

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   AlanTurner | Feb 02, 2004 07:03pm | #8

   Ken

   If I recall, and I may not, I might have been one recommending the old iron.  Nice score!!!  Use it well, and safely.  I have a big old 12"'er, and love it.  Long tables, great anchor.  My basement is going NOWHERE.

   Alan

   Alan

   http://www.alanturnerfurnituremaker.com

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   kensshop | Feb 02, 2004 08:23pm | #9

   I'm quite anxious to get this guy home.  I plan to use a rotory converty to get full power.  Do you know where to buy to get good quality at a reasonable price?   Ken

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   rslatm | Feb 02, 2004 08:50pm | #10

   I would start out with static and you can add the rotary part later if you need the power. Most industrial machines are way over powered for the small shop. A static from http://www.phase-a-matic.com and purchased through http://www.use-enco.com is a good way to go. Phase-a-matic offers instructions in their static unit how to add a slave unit for full power.  It's a bit involved but if you do your research it's not to bad.

   Also http://home.att.net/~waterfront-woods/

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   kensshop | Feb 02, 2004 09:26pm | #12

   Definately something to consider.

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   AlanTurner | Feb 02, 2004 08:52pm | #11

   Ken,

   I can't help you there as mine was converted from a DMD to a belt drive, and already had single phase.  It was one of the things that attracted me to the beast.

   AlanAlan

   http://www.alanturnerfurnituremaker.com

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   TomMGTC | Feb 02, 2004 11:09pm | #13

   I bought my rotary phase converter from here http://www.rotomaster.com/ and it has worked very well.Tom

   Douglasville, GA

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   kensshop | Feb 03, 2004 01:10am | #16

   I'll consult with these guys.  Thanks, Ken

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   daleduvall | Feb 02, 2004 11:45pm | #14

   Ken,

   If you plan to switch to a helix cutter, a static converter may be all you need. A good quality 3 phase converter may well cost as much as a new single phase motor. Just something to consider, as all your options are probably okay. P.S. I'm still looking for a 12" jointer myself. Now S.A.C. is near (if not at) the top of my list. Anybody fimiliar with these guys??

   Dale

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   kensshop | Feb 03, 2004 01:07am | #15

   Since the jointer is direct drive I have no plans for cutterhead changes.  The fence can be angled- this allows some "shearing", but I've bagged the idea of going to helical on this jointer.  I have very serious plans to go "Shelix" on my Powermatic model 100 12" planer. 

   The business about going static or rotory is debateable.  Northfield recommended a rotory converter but agreed that 3+ hp would be more than sufficient for this 12".  I prefer full power, grunt-grunt, (chest pounding).  Maybe I'll be able to test drive a static converter somehow and see if there's enough umf!!   

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   peters | Feb 03, 2004 04:53am | #17

   Ken

   Here's a less expensive alternative to a rotary phase converter, which will nonetheless give you full power: a variable frequency drive. This is cost effective if you only have one machine to run off single phase, not a shop full of them. I have one in my shop to power a Cassatti horizontal slot mortiser, which is 3 hp 3 phase, and the vfd ran me a little less than $300. There are vfd's for 3 ph to 3 ph, but you would be looking for a 1 ph to 3 ph model. One of the benefits of a vfd is that you can dial in a different frequency on the keypad, and get a different speed out of the machine, helpful in some situations where full rpm's would not be what you want. I bought mine from Dealer's Electric Motor, online at http://www.dealerselectric.com

   The hookup is relatively simple, taking about 1/2 hour, and you get full power out of your machine, but due to the nature of the vfd and the fact that it has to be programmed to each individual motor, it is really only good for one machine at a time. These are often used on 3 phase lathes to get variable speed out of a fixed rpm motor, and companies such as Felder use them to sell a 3 phase machine to a customer who only has single phase power. Worth checking out at least.

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   kensshop | Feb 03, 2004 05:07am | #18

   Isn't this a great forum!  I've had so many great responses.  I WILL be calling this company tomorrow.  And, I only have the one machine that's 3 ph.  Thanks for the link!   Ken

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   dirtstirrer | Feb 03, 2004 05:35am | #19

   Ken,

   Here is a beauty of a jointer for sale in Houston right now.  Figured a few following this thread might like the pinup.

   Steve

    

   Edit  --  Didn't work, check next post

   Edited 2/2/2004 9:38:17 PM ET by Dirt Stirrer

   Edited 2/2/2004 10:00:29 PM ET by Dirt Stirrer

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   dirtstirrer | Feb 03, 2004 05:48am | #20

   Hmm... no pic, try this

   Steve

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   forestgirl | Feb 03, 2004 08:55pm | #23

   What's "Shelix?"  Is it like the design of the Powermatic 15S?  I just read an article about that one, looks incredibly good!forestgirl Another proud member of the  "I Rocked With ToolDoc Club" .... :>)  you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)

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   rslatm | Feb 03, 2004 10:07pm | #24

   Shelix is the one at http://www.byrdtool.com

   The new PM head looks promising as HSS gives a better cut initially than carbide and if it's as easy to change as they say it is it should do well with the crowd that waits until the knives are beyond dull.  Oliver has a similar head on their new jointer as well.

   http://olivermachinery.net/Products/4240-10Jointer.html