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   Tinkerer3 | Nov 29, 2009 01:52am | #1

   "How does one insure glue sets when working at these temperatures".

   Answer:  One doesn't.  The glue bottle will generally give a minimum temperature for optimum gluing strength.  If you work in a cold shop, you might want to bring the components into the kitchen to glue them up.  Room temperature (21º C) is usually ideal.  In fact, I like to keep my shop around 20º to be comfortable for working.

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   robinmozuknowusa | Nov 29, 2009 09:59am | #4

   Hi Tinkerer3

    Many thanks for your help, I have now moved the pieces into the spare bedroom for the night. Trust all is not in vane as the sections are for my new workbench.

    Regards

   Robinmoz - Now "Cold RobinUK"

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   forestgirl | Nov 29, 2009 02:11am | #2

   More than one woodworker has tried the electric blanket approach.  These days, though, it may require using an old model, as the new ones have some kind of electronics that thwart their use for warming up wood.

   I have used halogen work-lights to warm an area to get finish/paint to dry.  Depending on how big your workpiece is, one or two standing lights, and perhaps one stubby to put underneath may get the deed done.  Be very careful, as they get quite hot.

   forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-) 
   
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   robinmozuknowusa | Nov 29, 2009 10:01am | #5

   Hi Forestgirl

   Thanks for your reply, will look out for an old electric blanket as its not always easy to move things in and out of the warmer house for glueups.

   Regards

   Robinmoz

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   roc | Nov 29, 2009 05:19am | #3

   The first pic is in the hall. The second one is in the laundry room just off the shop. Laundry room temp 17C. On the other side of the wall in the shop it is about 7 C.

   Wood glue is good for the carpet. Little known fact. It's a natural preservative.

   : )

   roc

   Give me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe. Abraham Lincoln ( 54° shaves )

   
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   robinmozuknowusa | Nov 29, 2009 10:06am | #6

   Hi Roc

   Great to see someone else with an understanding wife!

   In desperation I moved the parts to the bedroom to assist with the drying

   Still to try the carpet preservative!

   Before we bought our bungalow we were in a two bed - 2 story house .

   Stored the few tools I had in the lounge and worked in the courtyard; weather permitting - till we moved and now I have the luxury of a single garage and I do park the car there every night !! 

   Regards

   Robinmoz 

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   roc | Nov 30, 2009 01:01am | #12

   >Great to see someone else with an understanding wife!<>park the car there every night !! <Impressive ! Nice to see people still treat their auto with respect. Poor MG has been out in the drive way (covered ) for years now. I should be flogged. Queenmasteroftheuniverseandbabybunnytrainer has raised her hand and is offering to have a go.She says she doesn't understand any of this.I think we are on the brink of a crisis in undersadability. Perhaps if I install the new shower head today to replace the cracked and drippy one it would buy me another hour on the computer. ( I have had the new Shower Massage replacement sitting on the work bench for weeks now. )Once she found out what she was getting herself in for she tried to return me but the humane society here has a no returns policy. They said. I never saw that posted any where.She is too kind hearted to take me to the edge of the wilderness and leave me. That attitude may be changing . . . if I don't get into the shop and show some progress all may be lost.>decent sized bread board you're making there.
What do you use it for<Oh nothing really I just plane stuff to get exercise and used the boards to test glue and glue up technique so I can yack about it here on Knots. I never have time to actually make projects. Are you kidding ? Too busy at my main interest . . . typing in this forum. I know I have a problem. . . I thought it would be easy to quit. It is too late for me now . . . go on with out me . . . get out while you can. In the words of Arnold Schwarzenegger leave me, get to the chaaapppa, DO IT ! DO IT NOW !Just kidding. He is a bubinga table top.Turned out to be too big and heavy to carry upstairs so we eat dinner down stairs in the shop now.: )rocGive me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe. Abraham Lincoln ( 54° shaves )

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   KiddervilleAcres | Nov 30, 2009 04:15am | #13

   roc,

   Turned out to be too big and heavy to carry upstairs so we eat dinner down stairs in the shop now

   I'm with QM - bunnytrainer.  Are you really the Energizer Bunny!?

   Regards,Bob @ Kidderville Acres

   A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!

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   roc | Nov 30, 2009 05:47am | #14

   >Are you really the Energizer Bunny!?<Well I was a vegetation for a while but had to give that up. Here are a couple of recent photos of me in my natural habitat. I ask you . . . do I look like a bunny ?The energizer part varies widely; seems to be linked mostly to the opportunity to eat or buy a new tool and one or two other things we probably shouldn't bring up.Bunny ? Poleeeeeze !rocGive me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe. Abraham Lincoln ( 54° shaves )

   
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   wotnow | Nov 30, 2009 12:22pm | #15

   You really orter do something 'bout all that body hair roc.wotI started out with nothing...and I still have most of it left!

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   Taigert | Dec 01, 2009 12:32pm | #17

   Roc,

   How do you keep those ears away from spinning sharp obects, tough to braid, rubber bands would hurt like hell????????

   Taigert

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   wotnow | Dec 01, 2009 07:01pm | #18

   >Turned out to be too big and heavy to carry upstairs so we eat dinner down stairs in the shop now<This could be dangerous roc, stews done in the glue pot, bacon sliced on the TS. Don't build yourself a new bed I can see you all living in the workshop......on the other hand, maybe this could work out, living in the workshop, leaves the rest of the house free for glueups.wotI started out with nothing...and I still have most of it left!

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   wotnow | Nov 29, 2009 05:27pm | #7

   Hey rocThat's a decent sized bread board you're making there.
   What do you use it for, cutting up those long French loaves?wotI started out with nothing...and I still have most of it left!

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   Jfrostjr | Nov 29, 2009 05:35pm | #8

   "Wood glue is good for the carpet. Little known fact. It's a natural preservative."Have you considered starting a newsletter: Advice for the Homemaker?Frosty“If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert,
   in 5 years there’d be a shortage of sand.” Milton Friedman

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   jonnieboy | Nov 29, 2009 07:46pm | #9

   There was a recent posting asking about household items that have been appropriated for use in the shop. Perhaps they had that backwards.

   -jonnieboy

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   gpssam | Nov 30, 2009 10:46pm | #16

   Your photos made me smile, good to see that I am not the only one with glue-ups in the living area.

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   HowardAcheson | Nov 29, 2009 09:04pm | #10

   The most popular PVA adhesives here in the US call for temperatures of 21C degrees and 50% relative humidity to dry in the time stated on their containers. At 15C degrees the drying time will be about doubled and below 12C degrees, it may not cure at all. Even if later brought to a warmer room the curing process may not re-start.

   Howie.........
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   robinmozuknowusa | Nov 29, 2009 10:42pm | #11

   Hi Howard

   Thanks for the advice, I did move the bits to the warmer bedroom and the glue  seems to have set.

   I did pin the mortice and tennons - not something I do often;  but its paid off

   Regards

   Robinmoz