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   Don01 | Jan 09, 2008 12:15am | #1

   Dr Chops,

   Lots of DC discussion in Knots right now. Don't spend any money until you read Bill Pentz information. Then make an educated decision.

   http://billpentz.com/woodworking/cyclone/Index.cfm

   You want to make sure you can grow into your system.

   I purchased a Clear Vue cyclone which I hope to have setup in the next month or so.

   Don

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   DrChops | Jan 10, 2008 08:32pm | #3

   hi don,
   you're absolutely right: bill pentz' site is a wealth of information. i've been reading it off and on for about the past four years, and that's where i came up with the suggested DC's that i listed. they're both capable of meeting the "medically clean" spec which bill lists (filter to .2 micron).the clear vue seems to be a great choice, but i don't have enough space for a full cyclone where the DC needs to go. and since my space is so small (with only me running 1 machine at a time), i don't think i'll need to run ducting. so, that lead me to the 2.5 hp portable oneida (with HEPA filter) as an alternative.i have found several people who have great things to say about the felder RL125. i'm hoping someone has some experience with the oneida portable. the decision would be much easier if the price difference weren't so great...
   many thanks,
   bert
   if it's worth doing at all, then it's worth doing well.

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   jeff100 | Jan 09, 2008 12:25am | #2

   I can appreciate you're situation. I have just installed a Grizzly 2 HP cyclone, after buying a 24" double drum sander and learning that my cannister DC could not keep up with the dust output from the sander.

   I would second the advise to go to Bill Pentz website and plan on spending some time there. I've learned almost everything I know about dust collection, from the research Mr. Pentz has done and shares on his site.

   http://billpentz.com/woodworking/cyclone/index.cfm

   You will find answers to the questions you have now, and questions you'll have later, on this site. Good luck.

   Jeff

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   DrChops | Jan 10, 2008 09:38pm | #4

   hi jeff,
   thanks for the pointers. i started with bill pentz' site when i first set up my shop about 4 years ago, but couldn't (can't) fit a full cyclone. so, i've been working with the portable delta, the 2 air cleaners, and either a trend airshield or triton powermask.stepping up to a 12" saw, 16" joiner/planer, and a shaper completely changes the DC spec, as i want to capture dust down to what bill calls the "medically recommended" filtering (.2 micron). i got my ideas for the oneida portable or felder RL125 from bill's site, since i can't fit a full cyclone (like the clear vue which bill helped develop, for example).so, how's the grizzly at keeping up with the fine dust from the double drum sander?thanks again,
   bert
   if it's worth doing at all, then it's worth doing well.

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   jeff100 | Jan 10, 2008 10:33pm | #5

   I haven't run the ducting yet to the sander. The sander has 2 - 4" dust ports coming out the top. I'm going to box them in with a melamine box and run a 6" duct down to the machine. The cyclone has a 7" intake, so I will be reducing down 1". Also, per Mr. Pentz recommendation, I've positioned the drum sander to be closest to the cyclone (put the machine with the greatest output, closest to the cyclone). This meant I had to completely rearrange my workshop machine layout. Before I did this, I modeled my shop and machines in my CAD system so I would evaluate various layouts before moving any machines. When I was satisfied, I rearranged the shop. That...was a lot of work.My Jet cannister DC was hopelessly overloaded by the drum sander, which is what drove me to upgrade to the cyclone. I'll let you know how well the cyclone does with the 24" drum sander. Should be within a week, 2 at the most. Stay tuned...