I happen to see this at work and couldn’t believe my eyes. Could it be that a ” professional ” ” cabinet shop ” ( there will be much use of parentheses in this post ) could really put this stuff out ? And get away with it ? And not want to just kill themselves because they are so piss poor they do not deserve to live ?
Or am I over reacting. I leave it for my gentle readers to decide . . .
The photos are of a drawer, looking down from above. Notice the gap between the applied drawer front and the drawer box. The white area between is the floor viewed through a gap that is about wide enough to drop a pencil through. I might exaggerate but not by much ! The drawer contains the emergency kit and some bottles of alcohol and peroxide. Not an everyday use sort of selection here.
I had not noticed this before. The other drawers are like this as well. We don’t have a bunch of drawer slammers as far as I know.
This building is about a decade old and the cabinets were installed when the building was built. The cabinets are in the employee lunch room. The owner has a desk and terminal in there and would chew out any one beating up the cabinets. I have been working there nearly all of this time so know the history ( lack of drawer slammers ).
The face is ” held on ” ( more parentheses ) with staples.
NO GLUE ! NO SCREWS ! ( could they be saving THAT MUCH MONEY ? )
For this they want money ? I assume they got a fair amount of it in exchange for these ” cabinets “.
I’m depressed.
roc
Give me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe. Abraham Lincoln ( 54° shaves )
Edited 9/27/2009 1:16 am by roc
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Now that's fine woodworking.....
I often bring along an extra stink-eye when I go furniture shopping. My favorite story involves a furniture store in my little berg, which sold Amish made furniture. The marketing message was that gentle souls crafted furniture in the bucolic countryside, connecting people who care about quality to people who demand quality.
Iff'n ya ask me, Abner was hitting the hard apple cider just a wee bit too much. Saw marks on drawer edges, gaps in the dovetails, Sharpie marker indicating "left side", the horrors go on and on. It was a waste of perfectly good cherry.
I suggest you bring a tube of Liquid Nails to work, and fix that drawer in the true spirit in which it was made - a couple shots of adhesive, a few hammer taps, and right as rain.
Cheers,
Seth
Roc:
Wishing death on the folks that made these drawers is pretty strong. Is there a lack of quality, yea. Unfortunately, this practice of stapling on drawer fronts is fairly widespread. I've seen this a bunch of times in newer construction. I was in a custom cabinet shop about three years ago and asked them why this method of attaching drawer faces seems to be standard practice. The answer I got was that it is assumed kitchen cabinets will be replaced or at least get a facelift about every 5 years or so. The staples are really just a quick way to mount the drawer face until the pulls are installed. The through bolts that hold the pulls on are what are really anchoring the face to the drawer. One of my grandfathers was a highly skilled carpenter and cabinetmaker. I doubt he would think much of most of the cabinets produced today .
gdblake
>staples are really just a quick way to mount the drawer face until the pulls are installed. The through bolts that hold the pulls on are what are really anchoring the face to the drawer.<Pulls, . . . pulls, . . . pulls . . . hhmmm I know I have heard that term before . . . way back . . . one of those old time things they used to have . . .see picssame at workPS: I know, I know just kidding. Thanks for your insight. They seem to just never get round to the pulls on the economy jobs and the purchaser doesn't realize they are supposed to go out and get some because the last joint they were in didn't have pulls either.rocGive me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe. Abraham Lincoln ( 54° shaves )
Roc, Roc, Roc,
You've got it all wrong. This is not a defect, but rather a design element. Have you ever seen a floating table top? They've taken it a step further and made the false fronts for the drawers floating. When the user opens the drawer, it appears to be held on by nothing. It's awe-inspiring. Of course, with more careful examination, you notice that it is actually attached. I am inspired. Seriously. Thanks for showing. (Just goes to show that inspiration is everywhere!)
and www.flairwoodwork.spaces.live.com)
- Success is not the key to happiness. Happiness is the key to success. If you love what you are doing, you will be successful. - Albert Schweitzer
Yah well in a few weeks they are going to fall off and then we will have boogie boards and can go surfing down the halls on them.Those staples are going to take a toll.rocGive me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe. Abraham Lincoln ( 54° shaves )
At this rate of degradation in the professions I expect in just a couple of generations to see people in this country sitting around camp fires tearing at some unidentifiable animal carcass with their bare hands wondering how in the 'ell they got there.But then when we set our compass on a goal we tend to make fine and rapid progress to it.Can any body give me a lift to the next " civilized " planet ?rocGive me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe. Abraham Lincoln ( 54° shaves )
Edited 9/27/2009 1:36 am by roc
Them folks will have a lot to burn. The main camp will be at the land fill. Just imagine how tastey deer smoked with melmine faced MDF.I installed some cabintes from a big name in cabinets. Most all joints were stapled thru plastic l's and t's. maybe half the staples hit the plastic some had 2 staples some had 6-10.Looked like a crack head after a good weekend.Them fancey plastic cover on the hinges with the makers name on, well these cabinets had 3 differnt names on them. So the person putting them on didn;t even knew where they worked.What about the people who make them covers can't even fill and order correctly. Bet the CEO got a bonus that year!!
That's what happens when the lowest bidder is given the job.
I'm a fewer things/but better quality peritem type of person. One of my favorite quotes is :Looking back It is not the extravagances but the economies that I regret .rocGive me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe. Abraham Lincoln ( 54° shaves )
Edited 9/27/2009 2:18 pm by roc
I do repair work and if you want to see staples, take a look at the frame on upholstered pieces made in the last few years. These generally fall into two categories:
- If a few staples are good, more are more better. I've seen literally 40 staples in a lap joint. Other joints have so many staples in them that the frame members (particleboard, OSB, or plywood, often) has lost structural integrity
- Here's something that needs a staple, ab upholstery stapler (22 gauge wire staples) designed for fabric is handy to do a structural staple.
No wonder I'm always fixing these things.
>These generally fall into two categories:<I thought you were going to say These generally fall into two heapsas in when they collapseHere's hoping better things come your way.rocGive me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe. Abraham Lincoln ( 54° shaves )
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