What,s the best new 10″ jobsight saw?
I am looking for advice on a new jobsight table saw. I am currently still using an old 8-1/4″ Makita that will not die. I put a new set of brushes in it this past spring and it screams through nail imbedded heart pine all the time. I believe it weighs less than 35 pounds, is still pretty accurate despite constant abuse from everyone, and the table is tapped for quick mounting of Makita routers. I bought this saw used just after hurricane Hugo (that was 1989), and it is by far the most dependable and versatile tool I use. I can even fit it in the closed trunk of my Toyota.
I give up on waiting for this saw to break down. I’m looking for a 10″ jobsight saw that is accurate enough for smooth cuts in melamine, with a good fence, and light weight that can take plenty of abuse. I tried a new 10″ Hitachi last month. It was very pretty, but seemed to have a run-out problem. The blade arbor was so close in tolerance to the blade hole that it took forever for blade changes, the built-in circuit breaker kept tripping whenever I got a good rhythm going, and the magnifier for the witness mark on the fence nearly made me go blind. I never had these problems with my old saw, and I’m not afraid to lose peices of it whenever I move it around. What is the best new jobsight saw on the market? Is Makita still making a good one?
Edited 11/16/2004 9:35 am ET by cleve
Edited 11/16/2004 9:37 am ET by cleve
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I have read two reviews in mags that were quite favorable of the new Craftsman Professional 10" Job Site saw. Those reviews led me to take a look at one in the store, and it does look pretty darned decent for a fold-up and wheel it around type of saw. I'm not in the market for that type of machine, but if I was, I'd give it some serious consideration.
I might be worth your while to take a good look at it -- it's on sale for $360 'til the 20th.
Here's the info: Sears item #00921830000 Mfr. model #21830
--Steve
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cleve - The Bosch 4000 gets alot of praise on these forums.
Cleve,
I have the Bosch and consider it well worth the money. It works very well and I appreciate the outrigers on the back and left side that can be positioned to support larger stock. There is well-planned storage for blades, the miter gauge, and rip fence. I like the folding stand, especially its small size when stored.
I glanced at the new Ridgid when I was in HD the other day and it looks promising. Some job site warriors may even prefer it because of its wheeled cart. As a side note, I bought Ridgid's wheeled cart for my SCMS and like it a lot; the construction of their tablesaw stand looks like it follows that design, which is a good sign.
It was important for my portable TS to accommodate a dado set, which the Bosch does. However, not all portables do. When I looked at the Makita, I recall being less than impressed with the miter gauge and miter gauge slot, which looked undersize to me.
Good luck,
-Jazzdogg-
Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, you're right.
"What is the best new jobsight saw on the market?" There are four that I'd seriously consider and look at. Bosch 4000, DeWalt DW744S, Porter Cable 3812S, and Makita/Rousseau set up. I wound up with the Porter-Cable 3812S and like it. Electric brake, soft start, decent fence, 24 1/2" rip capacity, t slot for miter gauge, and it will handle a 13/16" stacked dado. The fact that with the promo's at the time it was over $100 less than Bosch or DeWalt didn't hurt either. I might not give up on your Mak just yet either. If it's in good shape I'd look at Rousseau's PortaMak 2750 ............. it will get you a 27" rip capacity, a decent fence, and the pneumatic tires make it easy to roll around.
I recently got the new Bosch 4000-09. It is based on the existing 4000, which as someone already said, has gotten very good reviews here and elsewhere. The new saw has a very cool stand that folds up like the Ridgid, but takes a lot less effort and is better balanced. I have tried out a lot of these saws over the last few months and am very pleased with my purchase.
Here is the link to Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00067IX1A/qid=1100831956/sr=8-3/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i3_xgl60/002-0853698-1943247?v=glance&s=hi&n=507846
Hope this helps.
I'm curious as to what changes they made to the saw itself. The new stand looks slick.
No changes to the saw itself from what I read, but the increase in my ability to move the saw around and store it when its not in use is unbelievable. Not sure what I would actually change about it if I could. I am used to using an old Craftsman cast iron contractor saw, and the Bosch is much more accurate and 100 times easier to move around. The expanding table top means that I can cut a sheet of plywood in half without having to use separate stands to support the material. I think it is actually bigger than my old contractor saw.
I didn't know much about Bosch before this table saw, but have been very impressed so far.
-Michael
"Not sure what I would actually change about it if I could."
Michael,
The one thing I wish was better is the dust collection shroud that surrounds the saw blade: I had to remove it in order to accommodate a dado set.
-Jazzdogg-
Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, you're right.
Edited 11/19/2004 10:52 pm ET by jazzdogg
Thanks for the input, I'm shopping for a Bosch 4000. That is a sweet saw. There have been some part recalls though. One recall was a shaft replacement to deal with blade heighth wandering, the other was additional washers to make adjustments easier. Has anyone had trouble with the blade heighth? I'm hoping to make sure I don't get a pre-recall saw. the Bosch websight shows the changes in the online parts list for the tool.
cleve
Edited 12/9/2004 9:29 am ET by cleve
Recalls are good things. Bosch tablesaws are good things.
Im a Hitachi man, but as was earlier stated the hitach is junk, its worth the extra money, and the Bosch has some great on board features that the others dont, in addition to the fact that it is leading the pack.
You can see more reviews on it at Amazon.com
dude,
get the Dewalt. I have the Bosch. it is a good saw, but is very finicky
and th fence always needs adjustment. My boss has a Dewalt and the rack and pinion fence always stays true. plus it is lighter with a smaller footprint.
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