Hi all
I have used hardboard (Masonite) for years.
Usually use the type with one side good.
But use the 2 sided good for jigs and special projects.
Haven’t bought for years as I had a good stock in the shop.
Just went to buy some more, and the yard guy said they didn’t carry it.
I said I had bought it there before.
He didn’t now.
Now it seems I can’t find any locally in Vermont.
Is the stuff still made and available?
I haven’t called my specialty supplier as they have a $500 minimum order for delivery and are 2 hours drive away.
Any ideas would be helpful.
Jeff
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It's still alive and well at my local Home depot. At least tempered one side is.
PlaneWood by Mike_in_Katy (maker of fine sawdust!)
PlaneWood
One side yes, 2 sides no.
Same for the Home Depot's here in Vermont (Nearest one is an hour away)
Jeff
Jeff
Ditto PlaneWood's comments from TX. here in Ga. Any type! Got to be a local thang where they are reducing inventory cost on some slower movers I suspect.
Regards...
sarge..jt
Proud member of the : "I Rocked With ToolDoc Club" .... :>)
Hay Sarge
Good, at least it's still made, had me worried.
Now I'll have to locate some with-in pick-up distance.
I suspect your right about keeping inventory lower.
Thank you
Jeff
Well Jeff, while it's common knowledge Vermont is a rather backward place (politically speaking anyway), I still can't think of any reason why hardboard wouldn't be available? we've got lots of it here in Detroit. :O)
Jon
Detroit's a little far to go.
As far as backwards politically, remember, most of Vermont is transplanted New Yorkers.
Well, maybe that proves your point.
Jeff
Not sure where you are in Vermont, but there is a lumber place in Walpole (across the river from Bellows Falls) that had it a few months ago, but if you are an hour away from the Wiliston borg, you would be further than that from Walpole. Let me know if you want an address/phone #.
/jvs
JVS
Walpole is an easy hop for me.
I would like the name and number
Jeff
Lavalley Building Supply Inc LMC
121 Church Street, North Walpole, NH 03609
(603) 445-5544
[http://wholesale.superpages.com/b2b/C-Materials/S-NH/T-North+Walpole/]
Good luck!
/jvs
JVS
Thank you
Jeff
Its called Le Valley Building Supply. I was just there this weekend. They carry alot, but this winter stock has been low (needed select pine and it turned out the premium was better quality). I know they used to have 1 sided but cant remember about 2. I can give you directions from Downtown Bellows Falls.
Jim
Coventry Woodworking
Jim
Great
If you give me the directions, I'll run over later this week and look.
Also, since your in the area, do you know what happened to Woods of the World.
No one answers the phone, and the machine doesn't identify them.
When I passed by a few weeks ago, no one was there and the sign was changed.
Oh, if your close, I'm always happy to stop by an chat.
Jeff
Jon:
Recently called Plywood Detroit looking for Masonite and all they carry is tempered hardboard like Home Depot. The sheets I used up had "Masonite" stamped on the back side. The tempered hardboard is softer than the Masonite. I know you were in the lumber business so is there a difference or has Masonite evolved into temperd hardboard?
Dave
DJK
I always called it Masonite also.
Jeff
Years ago I was told there is a difference, they are two different materials.
Dave
thank you
Jeff
Jeff,
Any local lumber yard should be able to order what you need, have you asked them?
John W.
John
Yes, and they said that was all that was available.
jeff
Dave
Any idea what the differance is or where to find out?
Jeff
Jeff:
Not sure anymore, Jon Arno would know.
I also "stock up" when at the supply store, rarely purchase one of anything.
Dave
Dave, Masonite is a brand. The generic term for this material is hardboard and over the years it has come in a wide range of colors and densities...some smooth on just one side and some smooth on both. The difference between "tempered" and "untempered" is a function of how it is formulated (with oils and resins) and then pressed...but I don't think there are any consistent standards. The stuff is made all over the world nowdays.
In fact, in my memory, one of the nicest hardboards used to come from Sweden and was a little less expensive than genuine Masonite back in the late '50s and early '60s. I haven't seen it in years, but it was a good alternative in that it was just as hard and durable but much lighter in color. I don't use much hardboard. Virtually never in the furniture I make. I do use a little for making patterns and as replaceable "skins" for the top of my work benches...and for the latter purpose the lighter colored and more reflective Swedish stuff was much better than what is available now.
Jon
Am I the only one who gets driven nuts by problems like this.
Seems that whenever I find something I like and when I try to resupply or find more, it's not avaiable.
I know that over the years, I've found things that I was afraid I wouldn't be able to get again, so have bought enough to last me for a long time.
You should see my storage pile.
Jeff
Jon:
Thanks for the info. The smooth both sides is what I remember. I also use it for patterns and my bench "top skin". Next time I'm at Mccaussy Lumber I'll check on what they carry. It's amazing what they have in imported sheet goods.
Dave
Jon,
Ever heard the generic name "beaverboard" for the smooth-one-side hardboard? That's what the local family-owned lumberyard calls it.
Cheers,
Ray
Ray, you're taking me back many years, but I remember selling a product called beaverboard at our store. Although, as I recall, it was a softer, weaker material. Sort of a lower density fiborboard. Miserable stuff to stock. The corners and edges would break up in the bins. I personally have never used it in any projects.
Jeff,
I just checked and there seems to be a Homedepot in just about every "major" city in Vt.
I've bought it there up to 4' X 8' sheets
ASK
ASK
A few years ago, the nearest Home Depot in Vermont was WIlliston, a 2-3 hr trip.
Then they opened in Rutland and now Bennington and Brattleboro.
The last time I visited the Rutland store (1 hr away) they only had one side tempered not both.
I'll have to call again, but the Walpole Store mentioned above is just as close.
Jeff
Jeff -
I think that 'Masonite' has gone the way of the dinosaur. There was a class action lawsuit against the makers of Masonite siding. I think one can still file if they can show siding damages and prove that it is actual Masonite brand. The lawsuit was that the siding didn't hold up to expected lifetime.
I think that all Masonite brand products have been pulled off the market.
PlaneWood by Mike_in_Katy (maker of fine sawdust!)
PlaneWood
Masonite was purchased by Premdor (who also bought Stanley entry door business, and on and on). Premdor took on the Masonite name but appears to only make doors now. Hardboard is still manufactured in a number of styles (most probably not available to normal folks, especially in Vermont!).
More than you or I ever wanted to know about hardboard:
http://www.panel.com/whatisit.pdf
http://www.masoniteclaims.com/masonite/index.html
PlaneWood by Mike_in_Katy (maker of fine sawdust!)PlaneWood
Just our luck
Jeff
A few years back I was making some radiator covers for my house, and wanted to match some existing covers that were made with a decorative Masonite or hardboard. This stuff was punched with a decorative cloveleaf design, I could not find this material anywhere. I had to use perforated metal instead. Has anyone run across this type of perforated hardboard, other than pegboard.
Robert
Try 1/4" mdf
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