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   derekcohen | Dec 21, 2008 07:06am | #1

   Hi FG

   For larger scale work, my Stanley #112 (and either thick LN or standard thin blade) is a good user.

   Shavings in Tasmanian Oak ..

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   And .. yes .. preferred over a cabinet scraper at such times.

   Regards from Perth

   Derek

   
   

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   Edited 12/20/2008 11:07 pm ET by derekcohen

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   pharmachippie | Dec 21, 2008 09:17am | #3

   Hi Derek,

   Looking at your nice pic of the 112 prompts a question.

   I've a LV (large) and am experimenting with the blade angle.I appreciate there are many factors involved in arriving at the 'right' setting,yours looks very upright and I'm wondering if that is your prefered angle,or was it just 'the one' for that piece of Tassie oak?

   Cheers from Bowral

   Robin

    

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   derekcohen | Dec 21, 2008 09:32am | #5

   Hi Robin

   The easiest way to obtain the best scraping angle is to first use the blade freehand, that is, as a cabinet scraper. Make a note of the angle, then set the Veritas for this.

   Let us know how you get on.

   Regards from Perth

   Derek

   ps  I love Bowral, although I haven't been there in 20 years. We travelled through when driving across Australia, migrating from Sydney to Perth in late '88.

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   roc | Dec 21, 2008 11:46pm | #7

   I didn't realize there were so many people from Australia reading this forum. I gotta stop using the quote from the Red Green show. " I am pulling for ya, we are all in this together "Means some thing quite different on the other side of the world. I do not mean that ! Now I am all embarrassed. ( : |And that takes some doing ! : )

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   pharmachippie | Dec 22, 2008 03:40am | #12

   Thanks for the tip Derek,will give that a go.

   I read your " Thick or Thin" article....[mentioned in your reply earlier in the thread].May I say ANOTHER insightful piece of work,and for me,very timely.

   Can't get a thin LV blade over this side at present,but will have another go in the New year.

   The Condiments of the Seasoning to you,

   Robin.

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   roc | Dec 21, 2008 08:38am | #2

   My opinion is it is only great for planing veneer. I do EVERYTHING ELSE with my planes though I have the Lie-Neilson 112 equivalent. It is not easy to use. I am no dummy about planes but a bunch of messing around for a little scraping then it goes dull rather fast in the hard stuff.

   The blade is very wide, not radiused and so when it gets dullish, ON THE HARD STUFF, it just raises up and skitters. Get a few blades. I have not because like I say planes do it and I have lots o' blades for them. I like looking at it though and who knows maybe a whole bunch of talent will fall in my lap and I will be doing marquetry like Paul Schürch and I will use it every day ! Yah when pigs fly.

   I am not saying don't get it but is a specialized pain in the butt like an MG. I happen to like my MG. But wouldn't recommend you get one though.

   roc

   
   

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   Edited 12/21/2008 12:41 am by roc

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   derekcohen | Dec 21, 2008 09:27am | #4

   I agree with Roc on one point, that is, HA planes can do much of what manyu would use a scraper plane to do. In addition, a scraper/scraper plane only works on hardwood, so if you have interlinked/reversing grain on soft wood, you would be better off with a BU plane. Still, there are times when even a very high cutting angle will not do it, and that's when I use a scraper plane.

   If I were to purchase one new, then the LV is the one to get as it can offer a thin blade (as well as a thick blade) option, which also bows the blade ala a cambered smoother.

   Roc, I have no difficulty pulling fine shavings with my Stanley #112. I don't think that it is trhe easiest plane to set up at first. Persevere. It is all in the preparation of the blade - I use a fine hook always - and the angle you set it at.

   Here's an article I wrote on Thick verses Thin blades using the #112.

   Scraping very hard, short-grained and interlinked Jarrah.

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   Regards from Perth

   Derek

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   roc | Dec 21, 2008 02:23pm | #6

   Forestgirl,

   check this out:

   http://www.woodworkersinstitute.com/page.asp?p=317

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   BruceS | Dec 22, 2008 01:05am | #8

   When I find one of those puppies at a respectable price,  it's going to be mine and a user.  My thumbs and fingers get tired and sore a lot quicker than they used too.  Anyway we can always use more toys!

   Work Safe,  Count to 10 when your done for the day !!

   Bruce S. 

    

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   pharmachippie | Dec 22, 2008 03:12am | #11

   Bruce, Paddydahat and Forestgirl too,

   Exactly what you said !!

   Having arrived at my current state of decrepitude relatively unscathed, I find that the constant pressure of thumb on steel very soon hurts like ****ery.

   It is an irresistable stimulus to learn the scraper/plane.

   Happy festive season,

   Robin

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   PADDYDAHAT | Dec 22, 2008 02:01am | #9

   Jamie lass, get the #112 if it's a steal, clean it up, sell it on EBay, take the money and buy the large size from LV .

   The LV has a bigger footprint, better controls, a longer nose and comes to hand nicely. Either one is better than having hot thumbs. Merry Christmas, Paddy

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   forestgirl | Dec 22, 2008 03:00am | #10

   I'll save up for the LV, Paddy.  The guy wants $200 for it, and that price level is only reached for the clean collectible ones on eBay.  I'll watch and see if he relists it at a lower price, but I doubt seriously there'd be an opportunity to make money off of it....forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-) 

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   | Dec 23, 2008 12:40am | #13

   Hello FG,

   I picked up the LN version, new in the box, from a auction. I had to lap the sole (I found that unusual, my other two LNs were perfect out of the box.) Sharpened the blade and went to work on some VERY highly figured birds eye maple. Works like a champ. I think it is going to be a very useful tool on my cabinet.

   Bob, Tupper Lake, NY