Tool gloat! (G0490 and G0453)
Nathan Barnard
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Hey folks, I have been finally able to upgrade my planer and jointer. I live in New Brunswick, Canada, so getting the Grizzly wasn’t the easiest, but was well worth it. Both of these tools worked very well out of the box. I didn’t have to adjust knives, outfeed tables, etc. They also remove much more material than my previous planer and jointer. I expect to cut my stock prep time in half. I decided to wait on the spiral cutters.
New tools:
What they replaced:
G0490 8″ jointer:
G0453 15″ planer:
By the way, here is a sample of the kitchens that I make in my evenings. I just finished installing this on Saturday:
Cheers, Nathan
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Wow! Nice kitchen, great tool upgrade! What was involved in getting the Grizzlies into Canada??
Thanks! I just ship them to the border and then pick them up. I pay normal taxes, that's it. These Grizzly tools are half the price of local Deltas, and are better quality machines (at least better options). Will definitely get Grizzly machines again!
I'm pretty sure there are several Canadians that would like to follow suit. Do you have a friend who's (big) garage receives these packages? <grin> Of course, Bellingham isn't far from the Canadian border, so those who live in Vancouver area could simply go there I suppose.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
Actually, I have got most of my tools from the states. I found a border town hardware store that receives packages for Canadians and they even have a forklift so it was no problem. They charged me $50 to receive and unload the shipment. The lady was telling me that they had just got rid of a Ferrari that someone had shipped there. I guess they had to wait 72 hours before it could come across the border. Only downside is I don't have a "CSA" approved tool, so if I cut my arm off the insurance might balk at me... Hopefully I'll never find out.
"The lady was telling me that they had just got rid of a Ferrari that someone had shipped there. " Did anyone check the various VIN numbers? ROFL!
That's a cool arrangement.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
Very nice, I just got the Grizzly G0454 20" planer. I would love to get the GO490 Jointer or even a 6" but my shop is going to be pretty small and a jointer would end up taking too much room.B.Kidd
Really! What was your reason for 20 vs 15? Do you plane glued up panels, or have 15"+ boards? I almost went for the 20", for planing panels, but was advised (on this forum) to plane stock to final thickness before gluing up. Also, I would have needed the spiral cutter as the boards would have glue on them. I'm going to try cauls instead. I might re-invest the difference into a double drum sander.The other difference between the 15 and 20 is the absence of the pressure bar (between cutter and outfeed roller). Any idea if this is much of a benefit?Nathan
Very nice acquisitions, Nathan. I have a 20" planer as I debated the issue as you did. I just recently put two 19 1/2" glued panel through. My original plan called for 20 1/2".. but I modified it 1" to go through the planer. :>)
You will be fine with the 15" as whatever you run across you find a way to make things work. That's just part of Woodworking as I see it. There will always be that "one more clamp.. one more inch".. one more what-ever"..... and there will always be a solution. Always...
Regards...
Sarge..
Nathan, well I pretty much went with the 20" for the extra size. With that said though I would probably could have got away with a 15" for most of what I have been building but as you know with a 15" you'll have something that is 17" and with my 20" I know I will have something that I need to plane that is 21" it just seems to be the way it goes. I do want to put a spiral head on it, my brother had some timber to plane down and we did get some tear out on it. I think you are right in the consensus of the advice in thickness planing all your board before gluing them up, I don't have a ton of experience with that yet so I couldn't tell you personally the pros and cons. Overall I think you will be pretty happy with the 15" though. B.Kidd
Congrats! I'm a big fan of Griz! How's your impression of the planner? Any dislikes. I have the griz TS,BS, 12" jointer, and would like a big planer. Nice work by the way!
If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it.
And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
Edited 3/11/2008 11:43 am by bones
I have the York-craft 20" planer, Bones. It is the exact same as the Grizzly as parts inter-chane with the Griz and Shop-fox. Put a lot of stock through at this point with standard knives and it does an excellent job. The 15" planer is "basically" the same design as the 20" with a few variances from what I have seen. There might be a few variances as I did not compare 15" to 20" directly in that line?
Sarge..
Planer is very heavy duty, compared to the lunchbox one it replaced. Leaves an excellent finish. I really like the way the infeed roller is on heavy springs and accommodates the varying thicknesses of your wood, unlike the portable, which you had to get the height just right. Table locks are essential, but work well. Without them locked the height wheel can rotate on it's own (turns very easily). Also, the 30ft/m speed seems good. Can't imagine using 16, unless on particularly intricate grain. I think the 20ft/m on the 20" would be slow. Dust collection seems adequate with a 1hp DC, at least on 8" material, taking 1/8" off. Just make sure you use a separator bin!The outfeed roller is slightly serated, and leaves almost invisible marks on the wood. No problems there. However, if you are taking a light pass (less than 1/32", the infeed roller will leave depressions, due to the springs' clamping pressure). Just set the depth correctly with a piece of scrap and make your final pass. Don't flip the piece and send it through again without adjusting the depth or you will get marks. Again, this is a non-issue for me.Lastly, the larger diameter cutter (3") should be less prone to tearout than the 2" one on the portable planer. The same applies to shaper panel raising cutters vs. smaller cutters for the router. This is due to the exit angle of the cutter from the piece.
Nathan,
I think you made a good choice. I've had the G0490 jointer for about a year and a half...still love it and use it alot. Congrats.
Neil
Go Wings!
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