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   mbcabinetmaker | Jan 01, 2007 04:27pm | #1

   LOU

   I switched from Campbell last year. I went with General Finishes Pre Cat 181. It works great and you can order direct form the factory. Up front you have to buy 3 cases but after that you can order one case at a time. I use their stains and milk paint as well. They seem to have something for everything. If any thing  this stuff sprays and sands better than lacquor base products. I will never switch back. They have a web sight generalfinishes.com there you will find their phone no. as well. You have to call to get commercial prices.

    

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   YesIWood | Jan 02, 2007 03:54pm | #5

   MB,

     I went to General Finishes' web site and I don't see the PreCat 181.  Is there a different name it goes by?

   Thanks,Joe

   Even a broken clock is correct twice a day...

    

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   mbcabinetmaker | Jan 03, 2007 02:43am | #6

   Look under the  Industrial link. Also they are very helpful on the phone. They sent me samples to try.

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   HowardAcheson | Jan 01, 2007 08:18pm | #2

   I would not use a waterborne for a bar. Waterbornes are very nice but are no more water and moisture resistant than NC lacquer. Waterbornes are also not very tolerant of cleaning chemicals.

   The most durable and water resistant one part finish for bars is a good oil based interior varnish or poly varnish. No waterborne will come close.

   Howie.........
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   loucarabasi | Jan 02, 2007 02:07am | #3

   I figured that howie, I'm just tryin to save the lungs and the brain. I will continue with the nc lacquers on the bars and try the waterborn on my bookcases and general cabinetry.

   Thanx, Lou

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   SteveSchoene | Jan 02, 2007 06:30am | #4

   I'd think NC lacquer would be very marginal for any sort of bar.  The exposure to water and alcohol that bars routinely face calls for oil based varnish if you don't want to use catalyzed finishs such as conversion varnish that have even more noxious solvents than NC lacquer.  

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   PlaneAround | Jan 03, 2007 08:06am | #7

   Lou,

     I used Target Finishing's waterborne poly on a cabinet I did for a client a few months back and the finish has reportedly stood up quite well to the day-to-day wear and tear one would normally expect such an article to be subjected to... but again, it's only been in use for a few months.  However,  I previously used Fuhr's poly on a dining room table for another client and they continue to rave about how great it looks.

     I'd want to hear from others regarding the durability they've experienced, of waterborne poly...

   Planeround

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   Mumda | Jan 03, 2007 09:41pm | #8

   I've used Fuhr 380 and 355 for 3 years without having any (known) problems.