I picked up 12 moulding planes in top shape at a garage sale for $60.00 and though there are hundreds of books, videos and articles on sharpening hand planes for the perfect chips I found nothing for these. Also 2 of them have pitting by the cutting edge so how do I also replace those? These will be to use. They are marked A.&E. Baldwin.
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I thank you. Do you by chance know of any other sources or booksdevoted strictly to moulding planes?
Red,
I left some planes in the basement. They got wet and remained that way for months. No doubt, those planes were molding when I rescued them. I used bleach and got rid of the mold. No more molding planes for me. Now I keep them in a more secure cabinet. You too can solve the problem with bleach.
Good luck.
MelMeasure your output in smiles per board foot.
Mel, I think you're having trouble adjusting to retirement. Might be time to get one of those pill box dispensers so that you take your meds on time ;-)
Have you checked out the "outside looking" in thread? I think you could have some fun over there if you're in an impish mood.
Cheers!~
Your right. 9619 is out to lunch.
Samson,
I am in a similar position to the OP of this thread. A while back, I was lucky enough to buy a set of moulding planes at a ridiculously low price. I have never used them because I have never had been into handmade mouldings. I simply got the router out and had at it.But, as you know, I have been moving more and more into hand tools, and it may be time to get the set of moulding planes out and do something about them. Sharpening would be necessary, so when I saw the title of this thread, I opened it with enthusiasm. I was glad to see you had an excellent reference on the topic. Then I wondered what I could contribute to the thread, and humor was all that came to mind. I hope that no woodworker was seriously harmed by the message I posted. :-)Happy New Year.
MelMeasure your output in smiles per board foot.
Humor is good. I think you will have even more when you find out how much pleasure you get from hand tools.
Dexter,
You got it right. I have been carving since I started woodworking. But in the cabinetmaking aspect of my woodwork, I was more of a follower of Norm than a Neanderthal. When I first got on Knots, I was, except for the carving, still a disciple of Norm. However, I was fascinated by the folks who were using hand tools. It took a while, but I now spend as much time with hand tools as with powertools. I won't give up my motorized jointer and thickness planer, but what the heck. With my part time job at Woodcraft, I can afford to indulge in some nice hand tools. The discount is very good. A few months ago, I took a Stanley #4 in to Woodcraft to use their big jointer bed to flatten the sole of the plane. I was amazed at what happened. Virtually all of the customers and the other employees came over to ask what I was doing. Not a single Neanderthal in the bunch. There was some deep fascination with this strange thing I was doing. A number of people stuck around til I finished, and clamped a board in a vice and started taking some fine shavings. I got four requests from others to give it a try. It was a lot of fun.Thanks for writing,
MelMeasure your output in smiles per board foot.
A few months ago, I took a Stanley #4 in to Woodcraft to use their big jointer bed to flatten the sole of the plane. I was amazed at what happened. Virtually all of the customers and the other employees came over to ask what I was doing. Not a single Neanderthal in the bunch. There was some deep fascination with this strange thing I was doing. A number of people stuck around til I finished, and clamped a board in a vice and started taking some fine shavings. I got four requests from others to give it a try. It was a lot of fun.
This reminds me of a recent thread about how to get more young people into woodworking. It occurs to me that maybe part of the problem is the invisibilityof woodworking. We work alone in our shops where nobody can see how much fun we are having. Maybe we should all haul our workbenches to a local park and spend an afternoon hand planing some wood so the young kids can see how cool it is.
-pjw
p.s. if you bring a generator you could even do some power tool work
:)
PJW,
"Maybe we should all haul our workbenches to a local park and spend an afternoon hand planing some wood so the young kids can see how cool it is."The people who came over to watch and ask questions were all woodworkers. No-one comes into Woodcraft who isnt a woodworker, except for an occasional kid or spouse. I don't really see a stampede to handtools. I see more of a run by the yuppie woodworkers to Festool. The rest of them love to talk about their powertools. Which table saw is best? Which bandsaw is best? Which spindle sander should I buy? But from what I see, almost none of them have ever held a hand plane. The ones who came over to use my plane seemed more "thrilled" by the long thin shaving they got (after I set it up right) than by the fact that you could do some fine smoothing with the #4. I had this experience again when I took in a #7 to flatten its sole. Same reaction by the folks in the store. Yesterday I was sharpening the Pfeil "Carving Axe" and I took some whacks at a piece of wood. What a way to draw a crowd? Why would anyone use an axe in woodworking? I told them about carving, and hollowing, using an axe. No doubt- interest was piqued. I have suggested that I do demos or classes which focus on hand tools. Management doesn't show any interest. Their interest is where it should be -- on selling what people want to buy. I don't blame them a bit. There are a lot of classes taught at Woodcraft. One thing they have learned is that a class will "sell better" if the students get to take home something they made. I suggested a class on hand made dovetails. The response was: Sure, do a dovetailed drawer. My response was: if we do that, the students will "waste" their time making the sides, and dadoing the bottom, etc, and will not get much practice at chopping to a line and cutting to a line. That is what they really need -- one to one teaching and feedback on what they are doing. If there were a resurgence of interest in hand tools, Woodcraft would be having lots of classes in that area. I have been fairly successful in convincing people that they can learn to sharpen by hand. I give a "lesson" to anyone interested in sharpening equipment, and I invite them back for more free lessons whenever they want. It is very satisfying to see someone's eyes light up when they see that nice secondary bevel that they made themselves, and to use the chisel or gouge that they just honed themselves.Oh well, I have gone on too long. Sorry about that. Please don't take anything I have said here as negative towards Woodcraft. I love the place. It is doing what all retailers must do -- cater to those who keep them in business. My part time job there has taught me a lot about woodworking tools and techniques and about myself.Have fun.
MelMeasure your output in smiles per board foot.
Oh well, I have gone on too long
I don't think your posts ever go on too long. I always enjoy what you have to say.
-pjw
btw, congratulations on the retirement. am looking forward to doing that myself someday (30+ years from now, mind you :( )
Aw, cheese, phil,
Don't encourage him!
Ray
Ray,
You are just jealous.
MelMeasure your output in smiles per board foot.
Mel
A belated congratulations on your retirement from NASA. How will we ever get to Mars without you? I thought for sure that you'd be the first to put a Marcou plane into orbit around the Red Planet.
I also love the hand work, but like you, I refuse to give up my 12" jointer for flattening the stock. I call it "Cro Magnon" woodworking. One step past Neanderthal, while engaging the brain over the back just a wee bit. However, once in a great while, I still like a good spear throwing contest.
Jeff
Jeff,
Right on, Dude!
Mel
PS - did that make me sound young?Measure your output in smiles per board foot.
Mel, Mel, Mel,
Right On and Dude are sixties man. Makes you seem older, like me! Just accept it. Besides, young women prefer to know you're a dirty old man. It's fun too!
Today it's butchering the English language or abbreviating everything in sight! Things like My Bad! And using a when an when inappropriate.
Regards,
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Mel,
It makes you sound like my 18 year old son. He's my youngest, so I guess I tolerate it. :>) I believe his age group, at least in these parts, is going for the whole 60's revival thing. They're all (trying) wearing the beatnik beards, and the hair is getting longer and longer. Some have it hanging out of their hockey helmets, its so long.
Next thing you know, star bottom pants and tie-dye shirts will be all the rage.
Jeff
All right!
I'm going home and dig out my Frankenstein boots and Nehru jacket! Would you happen to have an extra wide paisley tie?
Regards,Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Thanks for your message. I am only a few years into woodworking but going to a show not too long ago was introduced into handtools and am
hooked even though I still enjoy my machines. Stay with it.
Dexter
Dex,
Sounds like you are off to a great start. I got started in the late 1960s and am still having fun and still learning. I retires last week which will leave me with a lot more time to do woodworking. Knots is a great place to learn and to enjoy the learning. Lots of great folks who enjoy helping each other. Hope to see you here often.
MelMeasure your output in smiles per board foot.
Red,
Have you looked into these DVD's? I haven't seen them personally, but they are getting good reviews. http://www.lie-nielsen.com/catalog.php?grp=1320
A book I got recently, "Making Traditional Wooden Planes", by John M. Whelan is also very good.
Regards,
-Chuck
Thanks. I will check into those.
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