okay time for a shop sander,if you can only afford one sander which one would it be?cabinets and genral construction is what ill do most. thanks clay
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what type of sander? Drum, belt, oscillating spindle, palm, random orbit?
exactly my point. which one of those sanders would i probably use the most?im already using a random orbital.which one would be the most useful?combo sander?oscilating?drum?im not experinced with any of these except han held belt and random orbital.thanx for any help gentlemen
I just bought myself a sanding station. it has a nine inch disc and an six inch belt.
lots of cast iron and nice size table. a real pleasure to have, its definitely a leap from clamping a belt sander in a vice!
It needs dust collection in a bad way so cant use it for extended runs yet but I'll have that problem liked in a few weeks.
ChaimMake your own mistakes not someone elses, this is a good way to be original !
how much and which one?thanx clay
Its similar to a Delta Its a Taiwanese knock off called (of all things) "Dalta" Pretty original right?
What make and model sander you ask? This information would not help you as I live oversees and although there are similarities things arent quite the same.
For instance:
1. Home woodworking is not a popular pass time here as the average home is much smaller than a contemporary American home!
2. Land is not as cheep and the lots are also much smaller.
3. Tools are much more expensive, Example; I just purchased a Taiwanese 14" bandsaw and I paid over 700 bucks! outrageous but its the price of tools.
4. manufacturers are sometimes the same but brand names and specs can be different.
5. Most of the quality tools I've found are industrial and/or very expensive.
I wish you good luck but I cant help but to say that a stationary sander is a real blessing, for taking things down to line, rough sanding, leveling or removing jointer planer mars and so on. I could not recommend them more!
ChaimMake your own mistakes not someone elses, this is a good way to be original !
If I could have only one, the Metabo 450 Duo would be it.
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A Festool Rotex RO150 6" or RO125 5" can easily replace a belt sander, I'll never use a belt sander again. The pad assortment is very complete, one for every type of job. Papers for any type of job from sanding rough cut down to burnishing and a lambs wool buffing pad(real sheep skin). Dust collection is second to none.
I have seen and played with the New PC brushless servo motor sander and it's not too bad, for once PC has a keeper.
Work Safe, Count to 10 when your done for the day !!
Bruce S.
I am in the process of trying out a Performax 16/32 drum sander which I like the more I use it. It NOT however a thicknesser! You shouldn't expect it to take off a lot of material in one pass, that's a job for a planer.
The 16/32 means that the drum will sand up to 16" wide but because it's a canti-levered design, two passes will get you out to 32". A word of caution though when working with panels greater than 16" - make sure you make both passes before working on the other side! Seems like a simple task but in the heat of battle one can easily get sidetracked........
It will flatten wides boards/panels very nicely, especially edge glued boards that may be off slightly. Belts are relatively easy to change and it can handle up to a 3" thick piece of stock.
I made a sled out of 2" thick styrofoam, hollowed out the middle, to flatten one side of a burl I'm working on so with a bit of creativeness it can handle odd shaped pieces, within reason.
There are other tools to defur a feline, this being but one of them.
Regards,
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Edited 6/4/2008 3:35 pm ET by KiddervilleAcres
I have a 16/32 Performax and found that by using paper purchased from Industrial Abrasives it enhanced the performance signifantly over the paper that came with the machine and the paper sold by the store where I purchased the machine . I use only 120 grit to sand drawer box sides and fronts. On the last installation I sanded wood for 25 drawers that were 28" wide by 20 " deep by 10" high and the paper is still in great shape. Took two passes per side to get all the planer marks out. Well pleased with the machine. What do you use for dust collection on your sander.
Mr. Bird,
I have a Delta 50-760 1½ HP single stage DC. There are 2 4" inlets to a 5" Y, one leg is permanently connected to the TS, joiner, downdraft table, and router table in the TS extension. The other leg is what I refer to as the Free Leg, which I connected to outboard devices as needed: BS, planer, RAS and Performax Drum sander (recent addition). All devices and the Free Leg have their own manual blast gates.
This setup has worked extremely well for me. Residual dust is almost non existant in the woodshop.
The Performax 16/32 that I have I am road testing in anticipation of purchasing has worked very well. After running several boards through it and opening the flip top cover there is virtually no dust inside.
Regards,
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Thanks for the info. I have a 5hp(so rated by craftsman) vacuum in series with an Onieda "Dust Deputy" cyclone in series and I find that there is virtually no dust on the vac. filter. The cyclone tank fills up with a dust finer then talc. I originally had it hooked up to my full size Onieda cyclone but it clogged up the filter too quickly and Onieda recommended a separate vac. with the small cyclone. They said the velocity of the big cyclone was not fast enough to centrifuge the very fine dust from the sander so most of it got to the filter. The small cyclone works great with my ROS, belt sander and any other tool that generates a great amount of fine dust.
The answer to your question is very simple --- A Festool Rotex RO150 6" or RO125 5" .
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