The local school is selling a powermatic #66, about 25 years old, but in good condition. It is 220v not sure of the hp probably 3, with extensions and 50″ beismyer fence. What do you think is the value or what should I bid…any helpwould be appreciated. Also an older model Delta bandsaw 28-200 needs repair..any ideas of value.. [email protected] or reply to this form… need some advice or help
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$1.000 would be a deal , I would start my offer at $750 .
When they were new the value was about $2000 or more
That is indeed good old iron , try and get it if you need it .
Not sure of your location but locally the schools must advertise for sale said items before they can sell them to you unless they are scrapping the item .
good luck dusty
Make sure that it does not have a 3phase motor. If so I would offer a lot less. (assuming you don't have 3 phase in your shop). A lot of schools and shops have replaced old powermatic and unisaws with saw stop saws so there are quite a few out there. Anyway be sure of the condition some school equipment gets trashed.
Troy
What you you think it's worth (About)? I think it works well......the school did replace the powermatic with the saw stop table saw....
Edited 11/11/2008 8:39 pm ET by 70445
Assuming it is a single phase motor 7-8 hundred would seem about right. If it is a 3 phase motor I would offer about 5 hundred.Good luckTroy
The PM 66 has been a very popular saw for a long time. E-bay has some going from $850 to over $2,500. If the saw you are looking at was maintained, it is still a valuable piece of equipment. I would think that the $750 starting bid might be reasonable, but expect the price to go up pretty quickly if there are serious woodworkers involved.
How big is the table? Are the extensions included? Fence? Is there any rust on the top (or anywhere else)? Dents? Is the top still flat?
I agree with heartwould that $750 would be a reasonable price if the saw is single phase and in good condition. I might go a bit higher but not much. I have two used unisaws which I purchased for around $700 each. That's a comparable saw. I wouldn't hesitate to purchase from a school workshop. A few years ago, I purchased a used Powermatic 100 planer ($800) and a used Powermatic belt/disc sander ($400) from a school auction and both have proved to be excellent machines. I guess it depends a lot on how well the shop teacher maintained the tools.
ChipTam
Thanks to all who responded.....give me a idea of the value
I have a 25 year old PM66 and just had to replace the bearings. With a school machine they may have already replaced them once. It is not that bad of a job, but it does take some time and help. If you have to replace the motor (3ph) it will cost about $500 for a (1ph) from PM. That motor is mounted on what is called a C-flange and are not that easy to find. PM carries Baldor and the price was cheaper through them then through a motor dist. when we priced out getting a 5 HP instead of a 3 HP. We stayed with the existing motor for $500.
I found out today it has a 3 phase motor!!! How much would it cost to change it over to a reg motor that I could in my shop, which has 220. Is it even worth messing with? Table is extended 50" with a Biesmier fence...
Rats. Your two options are phase convertor or motor swap.
A new motor from PM is just shy of 5 bills.
I just had a mental moment . . . powermatic, 3hp, single. I have a motor. I have a new motor. Don't ask. My dreams of super buffing wheel probably do not require it. Hmm. PM me if you might want to haggle a little on that. 3hp 220v designed for a 2000 saw (which really is the hole orientation in the mounting ring)
Real trucks dont have sparkplugs
RW is right on the money about the price. That is a tough call whether it is worth it or not. Changing the motor is not too hard, but if they have not changed the bearings I would do the motor and the bearings at the same time. You are talking about $600 (motor + bearings) and a couple of days of machine rebuilding if all goes well. Realignment is what takes so much time. You will have a good machine when you are done. I would not even consider a phase converter if that is your only 3 phase machine. Maybe RW can make you a deal you cannot refuse. Good Luck keep us posted.
After reading all the opinions I'll going to pass on trying to rebuild (change out (motor), sounds like too much expense and work. I already have a PM 66 just thought I could pick it up and sell it as a 1-phase. If anybody needs a PM 66 with 5hp 3ph I'll sell it to them at a great price..
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Edited 11/16/2008 10:25 am ET by 70445
Edited 11/16/2008 10:26 am ET by 70445
Location and price is a start.
Pittsburg Kansas $950....50 inch fence, biesmeyer,
Be aware that the motor frame for the 3hp single phase motor is different than the 5hp three phase. The cast iron flange on the PM is not universal. If you change the motor check with WMH, the owners of Powermatic to confirm that the cast iron fitting is even available and the cost. The last time I checked the cast iron flange that holds the motor was bout $400. Again check with them. This was a few years ago when I spoke with WMH.
I'd keep the 3phase motor on it. I'd be interested in it but I already have three table saws and am out of space.
Try posting it on woodweb.com where three phase isn't such a big issue.
Good luck,
Mark Levin
http://www.marklevin.com
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