Anyone figure out what the time clock in the upper right hand corner of posting is based on. EST, EDT, CDT, local time, GMT time?
I just posted the question and the time is MY time. Does your posts show as my time or your time?
A bad day woodworking is better than a good day working — yes, I’m retired!
Edited 3/30/2008 5:46 pm by 81treehouse
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I think it shows time relative to the person viewing it. I am EST and it shows everything correctly for me.
I'm EDT and it is the correct time.
If you had told us the time on your clock and what time zone you posted it in, we could make some comparisons. I have wondered how that works.
Edited 3/30/2008 8:35 pm ET by Tinkerer3
This posting is at 8:02 CDT.
Please reply with your time of post.
ThanksA bad day woodworking is better than a good day working -- yes, I'm retired!
Thank you for your answer. My time for your post is 9:02 EDT. That accounts for those weird times of the day that originate from other countries. I think it is, as another responder mentioned, that it is the receivers time, as it is being written, no matter what time it is for the poster. I have always wondered.
i'm in california and you may have posted at 8:02 but it reads it was at 6:o3 on my screen. i am posting this at 8:40 pm calif- pacific
I've always assumed that it is Eastern Standard Time, or Eastern Daylight Savings Time. That is where the Taunton server probably is set up for, and the server should be time stamping them as part of it's sort function.
I'm in Mountain time, and every post I have made is two hours off the time I posted it. This includes ones to ForrestGirl, who is in Seattle, or the Pacific time zone.
He posted 8:03 in CDT, Your record is 6:03 on PDT and I record it at 9:03 in EDT. I'm convinced it is when it is received in your time zone. I don't know how these other folks figure it unless they have changed how it is measured.
Edited 3/31/2008 12:42 am ET by Tinkerer3
Edited 3/31/2008 4:30 pm ET by Tinkerer3
I'm still confused. Some people see a timestamp on postings that is their local time regardless of where they live (in the US). Other say that their timestamp is EDT. I would think it would be consistent except maybe for postings from outside of the country.
Maybe the system administrator can clear this up for us!!!
Are you listening?
Thanks to all who responded. For what it is worth, my computer displays the time in my timezone and not the time in the poster's time zone.
A bad day woodworking is better than a good day working -- yes, I'm retired!
The following is speculation, but I'm reasonably sure that it's what's happening:
The timestamps on the messages are stored on the host computer in UTC, and that information is transferred as UTC to the client computers (you and me). It is then up to the client computer to translate UTC into the local time zone, based on its own internal UTC clock.
So why do some computers seem to display a time that is wrong for their time zone? Because they are themselves set to the wrong time zone. Don't forget that clock time and time zone are two separate settings. You can compensate for an error in one by offsetting the other.
Here's a concrete example; let's say that the UTC time is 1500. If you are in EDT, your local clock time is 11:00am. If you set your computer's time zone to EDT, and its clock time to 11:00am, then it will do the math and set its internal UTC clock to 1500. If a message comes in that's timestamped at 1423 UTC, it will be displayed as 10:23am.
Likewise, if you are in PDT, and you set your clock time to 8:00am, then the computer will once again set its internal UTC clock to 1500. The message that's timestamped at 1423 UTC will be displayed as 7:23am.
But consider this: If you live in California, but your computer's time zone is set to EDT (probably unbeknownst to you), and you set your clock time to 8:00am (because that's what time it is in California), the computer's internal UTC clock will be set to 1200, not 1500. And since the computer thinks it's in EDT, the message that's timestamped at 1423 UTC will be dispayed as 10:23am.
-Steve
Basically the time displayed on posts by your computer is the corresponding time in your time zone, assuming that the time set on your computer is right.
Regards,Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Thanks for all the explanations. They helped me and I'm sure others who were confused about the time stamping.
Again, thanks.
A bad day woodworking is better than a good day working -- yes, I'm retired!
Here's a cool WEBsite: http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc?now=1&zone=Asia/Qatar&tozone=GMT
Regards,
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Edited 4/2/2008 2:23 pm ET by KiddervilleAcres
The postings that I see are all in EST (or EDT). I am in Arizona, currently equivalent to PST this time of year, and it is 9:25pm.
Josh
81treehouse, G M T is Greenwich Mean Time, the time of day at the Greenwich Meridian,as registered by a clock wich reads 12 Noon when the sun is seen at it's maximum altitude. Under central European time, European Clocks are 1 hour ahead of this. ( Websters Dictionary ). It is the main source of time reference, for all clocks, I think. If not, it's no use looking up Webster, as he is deader than Elvis!!. gary
And, if ya happen to be in the U.S.: http://www.nist.gov/
Regards,Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
81,
Yes, I am retired too! For this very reason I find I no longer care what time it is, here or in that strangeland where you live - so big it needs dfferent time zones.
I stopped wearing a watch 12 months before I retired, in anticipation. A severely time-divided day is the invention of factory owners and other despoilers of our natural human condition, or so runs my latest cod-philosophy - a self-serving theory that allows me to do what I want, which wants themselves change each day or so (or thereabouts).
In fact, I often can't remember what day it is. There is also the associated process of not adhering to the former "self" that was partly defined by the wage-slavers. These days it is possible to not worry about who the self is, as it is variable and subjective - just like time.
Down with all clocks and their damnable ticking away of the moments!
Lataxe (I think).
Edited 4/2/2008 3:36 pm ET by Lataxe
Lataxe,
You beat me. The morning after the day I retired, I decided to never again wear a watch. Have not worn a watch since. However, those damnable things that ring frequently still show the time so I am constantly reminded that I am late. I have no idea of what I am late for but I am sure I am late.
I am reminded of the movie "Jeremiah Johnson" in which Jeremiah ask his friend if he knows what month it is. They discuss which month it might be. At least I know the month and usually the day.
Ain't retirement great!!!! BTW, I love visiting your country. I just wish you would learn to speak English and learn the difference between a biscuit and a cookie!!
A bad day woodworking is better than a good day working -- yes, I'm retired!
Edited 4/2/2008 8:33 pm by 81treehouse
Tree, when you first registered, you would have selected your preferred "time zone to be displayed on messages." It can be changed, should you move, by going to My Forums and selecting My Preferences.
Thanks forestgirl. That is it. I had been searching for the setting. Too bad they don't have one for Arizona; I will just have to switch it from PST to MST at the appropriate times.My preference was set to EST and every post showed up in EST no matter what my local computer was set to. Josh
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