I’m using a dust collector with a canister filter on top and a plastic bag on the bottom. When it is running I can see all of the chips and dust spinning like a tornado. When I shut it off I see dust sticking to the inside of the bag. When I see this, I think of static electricity and an explostion. Do I have a bomb sitting in the corner of my shop? Previously I had clothe bags and could not see what was going on. Also, I do not think clothe bags would produce static electricity. My duct work is a combination of PVC and metal pipe with a copper wire running through it. Is the spining of the dust and chips normal. Do I have a static electricity problem?
Any thoughts out there? Thanks, Dan
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While you're waiting for answers, take a look at this article.
forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
Edited 10/20/2008 10:46 pm by forestgirl
Fascinating. Good stuff.
Edited 10/21/2008 4:00 am by roc
Hey there forestgirl,or anyone else,That Wood Central article inspired me to ask:What are your thoughts on static discharge in relation to vacuuming ones laptop computer key board. The way my keyboard is it is down in a depression and the keys are low with space around them opening into the interior of the computer. I fear crumbs and mustache hair etc will collect and become a mouse nest with time and I want to vac it occasionally. Because of my experience with static shock while using two prong plug cheep shop vacs I know there is some static potential.I have a nice Fein vac now that has a three prong grounded plug and I don't get popped any more but still concerned with damaging my computer.I have a wrist strap.Any empirical experience good or bad?I have put this to computer chat rooms but did not get much response.Hows that for getting off topic but staying on topic?
Edited 10/21/2008 6:03 am by roc
Can't you just turn it upside-down and tap it a bit?? Shake all that stuff out?forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
Nahhh, Forestgirl, I'm a GUY. I want to use a big, loud, three hundred dollar, electric, (or gas), power tool that I can buy attachments and jigs and stuff for. Don't you watch Norm ?Turn my lap top upside down and shake it ? Paaaalllleeessee ! That is sooo pass'e !Next I suppose you are going to say to use a broom and dust pan to clean my shop floor. Ohhhh . . . myyyy . . . GaaahhhD ! ! !
As an ex PC/computer support type, the standard way to clean out stuff like gunk in the keyboard is with compressed air cans. Try not to let them get to cold and then spray something hot in the computer. That would be bad. I would avoid anything that could cause Static, It may not be an issue but why take a chance?
Doug M
>spray something hot in the computerYou mean like sips of hot coffee? While I am laughing from wilburpan's Saturday Night Live info? Just kidding.Yah I been leery about vaccing so I suppose I will use forestgirl's advice to just turn laptop over (computer shut down) and shake the big hunks out.You would think Fein or Bosch could clean up (pun intended) on the large computer using arm chair wood worker crowd (us) and make a static free key board cleaning attachment for $199.99 I mean this is the twenty first century. How can we do proper woodworking with dust on our keyboards. Am I right or am I right? I think I am right in that.: )
Edited 10/21/2008 4:29 pm by roc
Your hot coffee remark reminds me of a problem a computer salesman friend of mine has. He has had to replace the CD ROM drive on his mother's computer three times in the last year. It seems that she likes to push the button to extend the CD tray and then use it as a cup holder for her coffee cup! It gets hot and then droops and doesn't work anymore. He doesn't think the manufacturer will see this as a defective drive! LOL
Bruce"A man's got to know his limitations." Dirty Harry Calahan
That's funny, Bruce! Actually, manufacturers should usurp that idea and put cupholders on the CPUs. Great idea!forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
I don't know about that! Liquid and electronics don't mix very well. LOL
Bruce"A man's got to know his limitations." Dirty Harry Calahan
It would have to have a splashguard built in, LOL!forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
computer salesman friend's motherSounds like she likes to push his button even more than the one on the CD drive.
Edited 10/24/2008 12:32 am by roc
You know how it is, you gotta take care of Mom!
Bruce"A man's got to know his limitations." Dirty Harry Calahan
"Next I suppose you are going to say to use a broom and dust pan to clean my shop floor. Ohhhh . . . myyyy . . . GaaahhhD ! ! !" Nah, I use a 16 gallon Craftsman vac on my shop floor, loud enough to wake the dead!forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
Am I the only one who uses a broom?
Better life through Zoodles and poutine...
yes.
not even i use a broom in my 104 sqft shop. talk about lazy
I'm just sayin'
shhhhhh.....I use a broom when I'm too lazy to drag the dinosaur vac around. shhhhhh.....
Vac's the only thing that works to really pick up the dust. Us women can get compulsive about such things, LOL!forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
I use that stuff they use in schools to keep the dust down. It is green and has that high school smell. Sure works though.
Better life through Zoodles and poutine...
Ya got me there, Peter, I'm not remembering any green stuff. Smells I remember from high school are bad spaghetti, gym socks and wet clarinet reed smell.
Poor Dan, nobody's answering his question. Whadya think about the plastic bags and clingy sawdust? I enjoy the sight of sawdust spinning around in the bag, and I suppose some of it clings to the bag, but I sure never worried about it. I never use the DC to suck up stuff from the floor though, so little chance of a piece of metal going in there. Always more concerned about the impeller in that case anyway.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
Reed smell, man that brings back memories. I pull the old thing out of its case every so often to keep the pads and cork in shape, but I hate to admit I can no longer use the harder reeds with out squeaking. Never really thought about the smell until you brought it up though. Odd, once I read your post I remembered the smell of the reed. Strange how the memory works. Only smell I remember from High School is the smell of the burning when the idiot janitor used a wire to blow the fuse on a can light as no one knew what circuits it was on and he needed to work on it. A very strong smell that one. (and a very very large spark)
Doug M
Yeah, the memory thing's weird. I lived and breathed music in junior high and high school -- concert band, pep band, jazz band, honor band, the whole shebang. Inspired by my half-brother (17 years older than I am) who was a professional, but he has waaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy more talent than his baby sis.
My granson (by marriage) has just picked up the sax at age 11. I'm hoping he'll really get into it. forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
Sax??? Well at least it is a wood wine. My Clarinet was/is solid wood, a nice older one from the 50's and is beautiful, (my dad pick it up used for my older brother) to bad I suck at playing it (I was fair at best)
As for the idea of cup holders on PC I shudder to think of it. Liquid and computers do not play well together. I saw when I was in school a guy dump a 2L of pop (that soda to those of you that don't speak midwestern) into the intake vent area of an then new IBM PS2 computer (late 80s I think). You could have used the thing for smoke signals! It was one of the funniest things I ever saw (not being my PC i could laugh about it).
Doug M
Sax is cool, if it's played right, IMHO. I gave it a try once, but wasn't cut out for it. My grandson's mom is very, very talented musically and I'm hoping he inherited that talent. He's one of these short-attention-span kids who feels awkward socially, not much into team sports and such, so I'm hoping music could give him an avenue to working in a group.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
All,
I am against promoting sax and violins in our high schools.
Ray
>green stuffI remember green stuff they sprinkled on after a barffer kid did his thing. Well I THINK it was green. It was green after they put it on at least that much I am sure of.Should I really use a broom on my keyboard? I am hesitant. What do the rest of you recommend? The turning upside down and shaking may be entirely too aggressive and energetic for my delicate constitution. Maybe I should call in an expert to shake it out.
>Am I the only one who uses a broom?On my computer key board? OOOOkkkkaaa I will try it but Iiiii daaa noooo . . .
Edited 10/22/2008 2:59 am by roc
I use a broom. It does a good job of getting cobwebs out of the corners.Chris @ http://www.flairwoodwork.spaces.live.com
- Success is not the key to happines. Happiness is the key to success. If you love what you are doing, you will be successful. - Albert Schweitzer
Thanks, That is a very good and well documented article. I'm still paranoid about seeing all of the chips and dust spinning around inside the plastic bag. I buy 8 mill bags for $1.50 each. So I can change them often and not worry about having a large build up of dust and chips in the bag. The idea of "mineral" sparks from something other than static electricity is something that is very important to keep in mind.
Dan
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