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   mlbfreestyle | Dec 22, 2009 10:25pm | #1

   Your wood looks like cherry. Correct? I am not sure if you are referring to the small patches of tear-out near the bottom end of the middle board or the light colored patches farther up. The light patches look like something I get when planing soft woods without good chip removal. In that case on my machine, I think the chips that get cut in one revolution either get beat back into the board on subsequent blade passes or get pressed in by the outfeed roller and end up denting the wood.

   You imply that you are using a decent vacuum system and it sounds like a better system than what I am using, but there could still be some minor issue going on there.

   I have never had a problem with removing too little on each pass.

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   boilerbay | Dec 22, 2009 11:59pm | #3

   Jman,
   I'd have to pick up on
   Jman,

   I'd have to pick up on the vacuum like MLB said. Those chips that are kicked back are landing back on the surface. Look to making sure the pick up right at the rollers is clear and then check you DC at the inlet. If it's not a turbo, that's where the vacuum often gets plugged by jointer and planner chips. Also check to make sure the planner pickup is not split. Some are cast with a rib inside that catches the chips and then gets plugged shutting down the drafting. Remove "rib". Should draft better.

   BB

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   jointerman | Dec 23, 2009 12:47am | #4

   Ahh... so I did think that it was kicked back chips, but I'm hooked up to a cyclone that has scary good suction. But now that everyone is mentioning it, it looks like maybe there's something that's inefficient about how my planer picks up chips.

   I noticed that I still have to blow chips out of the machine with my leaf blower, so clearly not everything is getting picked up. Those must be the chips pitting my board. I've got to figure that one out or maybe it's time for a new planer :).

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   boilerbay | Dec 23, 2009 09:10am | #6

   Jointerman,
   "I've got to
   Jointerman,

   "I've got to figure that one out or maybe it's time for a new planer :)."

   That might not solve your problem but what the hey - you've always wanted that one with dayglo lighting bars on the side. It's as good an excuse as most of us have for a new piece of equipment -- especially around 12/25 :)

   Happy Holidays

   Boiler

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   periodcraftsmen | Dec 22, 2009 10:38pm | #2

   It may be that the rollers get gummed up with chips and then compresses the boards. The rollers are rubber so chips get stuck on them. Try waxing often. Can you change speeds on the planer? How deep are the chips? Are you going to hand plane the surface? I guess I will wait for a response and then proceed from there.

   Fred

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   forestgirl | Dec 23, 2009 11:57am | #7

   "The rollers are rubber so chips get stuck on them. Try waxing often." Uhhhhh, I hope you don't mean to wax the rollers. Clean the rollers, yes. Wax? Not a good idea.

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   jointerman | Dec 23, 2009 01:50pm | #9

   It seems that you're onto
   It seems that you're onto something here with the rollers getting gummed up with chips. As you mentioned, the rollers are rubber, are you suggesting waxing the rubber rollers?

   I'll probably take a last pass on the jointer as opposed to destroying it with my hand planing skills. But I was really hoping that the planer could get me close enough that I could just sand any marks off.

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   jvk | Dec 23, 2009 07:57am | #5

   You say 8' hose but what
   You say 8' hose but what diameter. I have that planer and used a 2x12 duct attatched on the front w/ a 5" hose to my DC. Not a chip insight.

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   jointerman | Dec 23, 2009 03:01pm | #10

   It's a 4-inch hose connected
   It's a 4-inch hose connected to a JDS 2HP Cyclone. Only one machine. The planer is using a DeWalt metal dust hood. So while there may be a little more friction than your set up, I doubt that it's the dust collector.

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   brad805 | Dec 23, 2009 12:19pm | #8

   I suggest you replace the stock cutterhead with a Shellix from Byrd if you want it to stop. They do make replacements for the DW735. I used to have this problem with boards exactly like your center one and I tried the misting trick, planing at a slight angle, and light passes. In the end I replaced my cutterhead and it stopped. The cut quality from a Shellix is not quite as nice as a straight blade, but neither options will save you much sanding time so I have not found it makes any difference. Now I can send the grainiest Birds Eye Maple and Jatoba through my planer and rarely do I see any tearout that can't be easily sanded out.

   My machine is connected to a 5hp cyclone with 6" PVC, so I dont think that was part of my problem.

   By the way, I dont think a new planer will make a great deal of difference unless you really step up. I dont know what the cutterblock diameter is on your Dewalt, but I know on mine it was an 80mm diameter head. That along with the number of blades are very important factors in stopping your problem. If you buy another lunchbox style machine it will likely be a very similar cutterblock and you may not make much headway to fix your problem.

   Good luck

   Brad