I am looking to buy a 14” band saw & am considering a Pioneer which is sold by Western tool Co. It seems like a well built machine for $699, which includes a riser block for extra resaw capacity. The company says it has been making power tools for 65 years, but I haven`t been able to find any reviews on it. Has anyone had any experience with Pioneer tools, or suggestions for a bandsaw in this price range? Thanks.
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Why not a Grizzly if you need something with reviews?
cut,
I owned one for 5 days and got so frustrated with it I took it back to Western Tools and swapped it for a Delta 28-206. There are those who will tell you that wasn't such a great move. I bought it at a show (from Western Tools) and got a really good price, but that was 3 years ago.
I still had to tinker with the delta but I now have, what I consider a great bandsaw, and not a mortgage payment along with it.
Bottome line is that I think you can do a lot better for the money your talking about. I'd give Grizzly and Steel City a good hard look for the money you're talking.
I also have a Pioneer air filter, the big box kind that resides up on some rafters in my woodshop. Came with a remote and it works flawlessly and a lot less money than a JDS.
Regards,
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
I'd look at the Grizzly 14" Euro style or the Rikon 14". Buying a new saw with the intention of putting a riser on it is, IMHO, like buying a new car with the intention of replacing the engine. :=)
Hey polarsea1,
Haven't heard from ye for quite a spell now.
Funny you should mention the riser block. I spent months looking for a cheaper alternative than the Delta one, but to no avail. At the time they were $130. Yeah I know, I'm a cheap old phart.
Finally gave up and bought one when I was in Western Tool and have never looked back. I read about all the shenanigans folks went through putting one on but mine went on slickern a trout.
No adjustments, nada zilch, no pain.
Must be lucky or sumpin. Wait, I think I hear the footsteps of a Delta basher comin.
Regards,
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Edited 12/5/2008 7:58 pm ET by KiddervilleAcres
Thanks for the band saw info. I am curious, what frustrated you with the Pioneer B.S?
Several things, fit and finish of the panels/skins - they didn't align and the metal seemed paper thin compared to the Delta. By the way, the Delta is not a highly rated bandsaw by any stretch of the imagination.
What completely turned me off was that no matter what I did I could not get the wheels co-planar (sp?). Made it next to impossible to track a blade.
The wheels themselves were not a lot heavier than the plastic ones I have on a 9" trike bandsaw! Trike meaning it has 3 wheels - not a good design and it too is a Delta. It is however a good little saw for small stuff.
Also, bear in mind that I had to fuss a bit with the 28-206, but it at least gave me a fighting chance. The wheels were co-planar out of the box, fit and finish was good and installation of the riser block was a cinch.
The only problem I had with the Delta was that it would vibrate severely when shtting down - the only time it vibrated at all. I was told that it's not a big thing but it bothered me. Tweaking the motor pulley tension solved that.
It seems that the price of a bandsaw is in direct proportion to the amount of tweaking one has to perform to get it right. I really like the Delta and would buy another one, but maybe a bigger one the next time.
My experience with the Pioneer was 3 years ago and they may have improved since then.
Regards,
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Edited 12/5/2008 9:33 pm ET by KiddervilleAcres
Hi Bob, I'm glad you're happy with the Delta. I have a new style Craftsman 14" that I'm pleased with (I'm old and cheap too). My experience with a riser on my former Jet 14" BS was just the oposite to yours. Not gonna go into it here.
My objection to buying a new 14" saw and adding a riser is that for not much more $$ you can get a better saw.
Happy woodworking!
Bill
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