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   RANGERP75R | Jun 06, 2003 04:45am | #1

   tryan

       I don't have one, but have researched them in the past 6 months also. The machine is terrible. What a waste of money. The customer servive is terrible. They claim to be in Texas, but I highly expect they are really in Siberia or somewhere like that.

     I'm sorry you spent your money on a pile of junk like that. Just too show you what a nice guy I am, I'll give you $300 for yours so you won't have a total bust. I probaly can tweak it so I could could find some use for it. he..he..

   Enjoy.......

   sarge..jt

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   tryan | Jun 06, 2003 08:06am | #2

   Well, I don't have it in my posession just yet, perhaps I should just have it delivered to your door instead :). 300 sounds about right.

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   RANGERP75R | Jun 07, 2003 07:55am | #10

   tryan

      Well I tried. ha..ha.. I saw the MM16 at the Atlanta WW Show and it's a great peice of work. I liked it more than their 18" as it has the same re-saw capacity and a lower price. If I stepped up from there, it would be to the MM20. The MM16 is perfect for my needs, though.

      I think you got the confirmation you were looking for already. The MM people at the show were more than knowledgeable and went out of their way to assist even though I told them straight up I was just shopping at that time.

      I think you made an excellent choice. Now if you step up to a 20" in the future, the $300 offer stands. <G>

   Have fun and yeah, I'm a bit jealous but I'll get over it. ha...

   sarge..jt

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   MSDMSD | Jun 06, 2003 10:41pm | #6

   I'd have to disagree, I just purchased the MM20 and Carol has answered all my question and kept me informed on the delivery dates.  He saw the order through from start to finish and even yesterday I asked him another question and he gave me his full attention.

   One more thing, the whole staff follow through.

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   tryan | Jun 06, 2003 11:41pm | #7

   I believe Sarge's post was in jest. :)

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   JDorn | Jun 07, 2003 12:12am | #8

   time out

   your sarcasm detecter might be broken, you may wanna get that checked out.

   now if i can only convince my wife i need a MM16 :)

   JD

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   RANGERP75R | Jun 07, 2003 08:08am | #12

   JD

      Tell her it's on sale! It doesn't matter if you need it or not, women usually will OK if it's on sale. ha..ha..

   Take care...

   sarge..jt

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   MSDMSD | Jun 08, 2003 07:34am | #13

   May-be you need a 22

   who's the funny-man?

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   RANGERP75R | Jun 07, 2003 07:45am | #9

   Dog

      Sorry if I upset you.  You'll find I have a sense of humor. Well I have humor, my wife claims no sense. ha..ha..

      I saw the MM16 for the 1st time at the Atlanta WW Show and fell in love with it. The people from MM are great in person as I'm sure they are on the phones at Customer Service.

      I'm just jealous I can't afford one like you rich guys. I checked the machining with a square and mic and this is a nice piece of work. I would not hestitate to buy or recommend the MM. My next BS will be one unless something fantastic comes along.

   Have a good evening and enjoy that MM20, you lucky Dog...

   sarge..jt

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   jcousins | Jun 06, 2003 04:27pm | #3

   i've had one for about a year - great machine - i use it primarily for resaw - once you get it set up it cuts very true. good customer support with very knowledgable people. congrats on your choice.

   jerry

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   ownersrep | Jun 06, 2003 06:33pm | #4

   Thank you for the heads up.  I been watching their site hoping they would put it on sale.  I called today and got the same deal you did.  The salesman (very knowledgable and nice) said their is a MiniMax owners forum - he's going to send me the website.  Wouldn't agree to help me get it to the basement :-). 

   Sarge probably would have offered at least $400 but it wouldn't have matched the color scheme in his shop - he had to figure in the repainting cost.

   Jim

   
   

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   Edited 6/6/2003 11:37:15 AM ET by Jim in CO

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   RANGERP75R | Jun 07, 2003 08:05am | #11

   Jim

      Repainting cost? <G>.. I've been modifying and re-painting so long I could have it stripped down to bare metal and re-shot in about an hour. ha..ha..

      You also made an excellent choice. Saw it at the Atlanta WW Show and it's great. I went over it with a fine tooth comb and it passed with flying colors. I would love to have one in my shop, but I got a teen-ager who just got a drivers license instead. There is no justice in this world. ha..ha..

   Have a good one, Jim; and enjoy the MM while I struggle with a bow-saw. Wish I had nice tools like ya'll. he..he..

   sarge..jt

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   ownersrep | Jun 10, 2003 04:43am | #14

   Sarge,

   Always a pleasure to hear from you.  Actually I think I first looked into the MM after I read your opinion from the Atlanta WW show.  I'm very exicted to actually get it even with the 3 lbs of cosmoline on it (the salesman even told me about it). 

   I hear you on the teenager thing - I've got two and another one still in college.  I haven't got a lot of tool money either but started trying to go the cheap route and took a real beating on them when I quickly out grew them.  I've started waiting till I can afford the one I hope to grow into instead of the one I hope to outgrow.

   I always enjoy the pictures of that showroom you call a shop.

   By the way what is a bow-saw :-)

   Jim

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   RANGERP75R | Jun 10, 2003 05:30am | #15

   Jim

      Ha..ha..  A bow-saw is the thing we po' folks have to use to re-saw. Has a D handle and a blade. Buy it at any hardware store or box store for $8. Most use them to saw off limbs on trees and small logs, but we under-priviledged have to use them to re-saw by hand.

      Now, don't think for a second that we "needy" folks are hoping that the rich folks will donate some of their old motor driven tools to us. No sir-ree, bob. It's really not all that bad working with out-dated, crude tools out in the open weather. I"m hoping to get lucky and find some old tin roofing or something to build some kind of shelter so I can work inside like all the other folks on the forum.

      In the meantime, I'll just make ado.

   he..he..

   sarge..jt

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   GregB126 | Jun 10, 2003 06:13am | #16

   Howdy, Sarge.

   Nice to see ya.  Mind if I cut in?  I'd like to ask Jim how the MM16 arrived.  Was it on a pallet?  Sitting upright?  What would I have to be ready with if my driveway to the shop is down a bit of an incline before it levels out?  Anything surprise you?  Just want to be prepared.

   Cheers,

   Greg

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   ownersrep | Jun 10, 2003 05:30pm | #17

   Greg,

   I just ordered it last friday - to meet their June 7th price increase.  It's approximately a 6 week lead time on delivery.  My understanding is that it will come upright on a pallet and be delivered to ground level (liftgate truck).  The salesman said that you can usually get the truck driver to help you get it into the garage (especially if you give him $10-20).  My problem is it goes to the basement and I don't think $20 will get it there.  I've about used up my friends getting unisaw, jointer, planer, etc. down those stairs.

   Jim

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   BOBABEUI | Jun 10, 2003 07:14pm | #18

   Someone asked how the MM16 arrived.. Mine arrived assembled upright fully enclosed by a wooden pallet, shrink wrapped in thick plastic wrap. The saw had about 3 lbs of white grease on all machined surfaces (enough grease where the machine could have been thrown overboard without a problem). The freight company placed the saw in my garage, I disassembled the saw (motor, table and fence) to get the saw into my basement shop, it's still pretty heavy load without those items.. You will need to install your own plug...

   Hopes this helps

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   RANGERP75R | Jun 11, 2003 04:36am | #20

   Greg

      I will try to be serious a moment. If you are getting a mobile stand, could the saw be taken off the pallet at street level and onto the mobile base. Three or four guys could then offer resistance as it it rolled down the incline.

      Option two, I have 3 or 4 furniture dollies (about $20 HD or Lowes). Attach two together with some 2 x 6 or 2 x 8 yellow pine. Shoot some carriage or hex bolts and nuts (counter-sunk through the pine and into the oak base on the dollies. I used this method to work on and move a 40' parts counter I built for my work recently. No way I could move those 10' sections by myself without the rolling base underneath.

      Option three, rent or borrow a pallet jack.

   Just some thoughts...

   sarge..jt

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   BOBABEUI | Jun 06, 2003 09:47pm | #5

   Tryan,

   I just recently setup my new MM16. Finish on the cast iron table is a little cruder than I would have liked,  machine is very stoutly built (460 lbs). It will take you hours to remove all the rust preventer on the saw (must have been 3 lbs of the stuff). After just a little fussing with the setup,  I installed a TimberWolf 1" blade and was successfully resawing Walnut without any prior re-sawing experience.. I am sold, sure you will be happy with your purchase.. Good Luck

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   JCinNC | Jun 10, 2003 08:54pm | #19

   I've had my MM16 for about a year now and love it.  This is my first band-saw so I don't have anything to compare it to.  I've sawed a piece of 8" oak firewood with it so thin you can see through it.  Plenty of power, etc. 

   I'm not real wild about the fence that came with it, and I wish the miter guage slot was standard size.  Mine only came with 3 blades and I paid extra for the mobility base.  I broke the foot brake off the first time I tried to use the base, and they sent me a new one right away and promised me a free blade.  I got the pedal, but no blade. 

   I recommend this saw to anyone looking for a quality machine.

   
   

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   Edited 6/10/2003 1:57:58 PM ET by JCinNC