I am buying a new Cabinet Saw..Help???
I am considering parting with some $$ to upgrade from my Powermatic 64 contractors saw to a cabinet saw. May go European, but since I already have the Delta sliding table I am considering the Delta Unisaw or the Powermatic 66. I don’t feel that I can miss with either, but am still open to European saws. I will have to have the capacity to use a dado and have no real need for a saw with more than 10″ blade capacity.
I would appreciate input, especially from those of you who have purchased and used either of the above mentioned American saw or any European models.
Thanks.
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I have the Uni with a bissey fence..Great saw Nuff said...
ToolDoc
You might look at Kufo saws. They are euro style and they sell one for $1995 that comes with a free 2 hp cartridge type dust collecter. The sliding table on the saw cuts a full 48", It comes with a scoring blade and it doesn't take up as much space as the saw I'm using now.
Check it out at http://www.rexma.com.tw/bapilon/sk-250ts.htm
I haven't heard feedback from anybody yet, so who knows.
It sure specs out good for the money though.....
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I recently purchased a uni with 30" unifence from WWS and am happy with it. I spent $1200; free shipping and no tax. It is not up to the quality of a PM66 but for a person on a tight budget it was a good investment. Depending on your requirements a European saw may work better for you. If your read the Table Saw book by Mahler I think you'll be in a better position to make an informed decision.
routerguy,
Last Friday i was looking at the new powermatic with the sliding table (...aka euro style. The sales guy said it was a knock off of the Robland. It has all the features you attribute to a euro style saw.... and....the wood can be removed from the zero clearance plate to accomodate a dado blade.
Quite a machine....
It has all the features you attribute to a euro style saw
All? Including a genuine riving knife? Unless PM has completely redone their design, I doubt it. (Am willing to be proven wrong, of course).". . .and only the stump or fishy part of him remained."
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Norm,
Sorry, I did not check to see if the riving knife was on the PM. This was not your PM, Unisaw, General with a slider. This looked more like Felder, Rojek and, as I mentioned, the guy said it was a Robland re-due. The slider could easily accomodate a full sheet of ply with (almost ) zero clearance between the sliding table and saw blade. I think he said it was 5 hp. I only asked about the dado blades and he said how they were accomodated.
This particular store has Unisaw, General, PM and Jet contractor saws and cabinets on the showroom floor...as well as lathes, shapers, jointers, etc. etc. Down stairs thaey have all used stuff...36" bandsaws, etc. Point is, lot to see little time.
I just went and looked but saw no riving knife, it is in the description however. You'll need to scroll down thorugh the table saws to see the panel saw
http://www.brentwoodmachine.com/Merchant/bmshome3.html
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The nicest saws I've had the opportunity to work with were Oliver and Martin. Both a lot more expensive than the Unisaw or the Powermatic 66. Once in our shop we had two 66s and a Unisaw. The Unisaw was used as an outfeed table for one of the Powermatics and was only used a couple times when doing odd beveled work where the right tilt was more convenient. Don't overlook the General that's similar to the 66--I've looked at them at shows and they're easily as beefy as the 66 at a better price.
Ditto to what Larry Williams said- don't overlook General. I've looked at several. Very well built with a massive trunnion. The steel in the cabinet seems be a heavier gauge that the PM or Delta and the table extensions are factory assembled. Every one I've seen has been perfectly flush.
routerguy
I like the Rojek. Problem is, it does not come with a 10" blade and 12" blades are not your everyday fare. Can get 80 tooth and 40 tooth combo, but I like to match teeth to job. Someone make make a better selection, but i am not aware.
Also like the General and a Robland slider. Only problem there is the General comes with a splitter instead of riving knife. I really prefer the riving knife, but the General is a tank on the inside as posters stated.
Not familar with the PM BG mentioned with the slider and new goodies. Just take your time an don't overlook anything. You'll probaly be glad you did.
Good Luck...
sarge..jt
I am heading in the same direction as you in terms of obtaining a cabinet saw, but probably won't make a move until next year. One of the woodworking magazines I subscribe to just did a review and comparison of cabinet saws...last month I think. I was surprised at a statement I remember from the article that indicated none of the "European" cabinet saws in the review would accept a dado blade?
If you are interested in the article, email me and I will be happy to send you a copy if you don't already have the magazine. I cannot recall the magazine or issue exactly and am at work right now so I will have to look the article up later.
Dan Butler
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