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   Vibart2 | Jan 31, 2005 11:48pm | #1

   Grizzly 1023SL Cabinet Saw

   Sucking.......Whoosh.......Yowl........Whoosh.........Thrump puttytat up the DC..
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   highfigh | Feb 01, 2005 12:12am | #2

   What are you going to be cutting/making in your shop? That will ultimately determine what you need. I have a 1023S, right tilt. I have a low tolerance for crap and I like it a lot. I went to the 7" rails with extension table on a mobile base. Easy to move, easy to use and very accurate. Torn between using my sliding miter or the tablesawsaw for crosscuts, but most of the time I use the table. I need a better crosscut sled, but that doesn't have anything to do with how well the saw works for this. Once I set it up. I haven't adjusted anything, although I do check it occasionally. The only thing I plan to change is the faces on the fence, which is rock solid. I don't have a climate controlled shop and HDPE grows when it gets really hot. This causes the faces to become wavey. Hasn't been a bad problem yet, but it can affect accuracy. The faces screw on and this makes it easy to make any changes/ if needed. I'll go with solid surface material, if I can. Otherwise, Baltic Birch with laminate. Low friction, stable, strong and I'll be able to install T slots. Either saw will work really well for you since they're both well made and finished. Use good blades and keep them clean & sharp. Neither has a great guard/splitter so you'll probably want to upgrade them.

   You'll hear from all sides regarding saws like these. You'll ultimately have to decide, but there are good and bad things about everything. I mentioned the faces on the fence and the guard/splitter. This splitter is shipped on most of the imported saws, so it'll probably be on the PM, too. I consider the faces a very minor issue. It's not terribly hot often enough to be a major problem since I don't like working out there when it's that hot and muggy, anyway. I use mine through the whole year and I'm in Wisconsin. It gets cold, humid, hot, combinations of these and it works, always.

   Grizzly's customer service is really good and I bought my saw about 4 years ago. I already had the 12" planer(1994) and jointer(1998) from them when I got the saw. I just got their G0555 bandsaw a few weeks ago. I have no complaints about any of them. I worked at a place with a Powermatic saw, don't remember the model but it had the long rails, Bies fence, stamped steel legs and we built an extension table. I liked it but it needed adjustment fairly frequently. In 1994, that one was $750. Wasn't a cabinet saw, the fence definitely raised the price.

   Also, which model of SuperSaw are you looking at?
   "I cut this piece four times and it's still too short."

   
   

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   Edited 1/31/2005 4:16 pm ET by highfigh

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   ChestnutWwking | Feb 01, 2005 12:45am | #3

   Thanks for the info!

   I'm comparing the Grizzly to the Jet Supersaw with either the 30" Fence or the 50" Fence. I'm still a little unsure as to which will fit in my small shop.  At this point in the game I think that I'm leaning towards the Grizzly saw.  I've also thought about the Jet Xacta as I hear that is a nice saw as well.  Only problem is that I can get into the Grizzly for around $1000 and the Jet is around $1500.  If I go with the Grizzly, I can get the dust collector for the same money as the saw from Jet.

   Let me know what you think.

   Thanks,

   Mike

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   highfigh | Feb 01, 2005 03:33am | #4

   I went to the Jet site and looked at the Super Saw. The T slots on the fence are nice, but can be added to the Shop Fox pretty easily. I'm going to put them on mine when I redo the faces. I may attach the face material with a piece of T track to a strip of aluminum, then screw the whole thing to the fence. That way, I can use a feather board as a hold down for certain cutting jobs. I can also attach a sacrificial fence for dado cutting, although the one I have now works pretty well.
   "I cut this piece four times and it's still too short."

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   Dustmight | Feb 02, 2005 05:28pm | #5

   Your comparing a full blown 3hp cabinet saw to a hybrid, which is really apples to oranges.  For a home shop both saws you mentioned will do the job, but there's not alot of debate about the number of advantages that a decent cabinet saw has over a hybrid.  Of the four saws available in the Jet's price range that are classified as a hybrid (Jet SS, Dewalt 746, GI 50-220CM1, Craftsman 22124), the SS tends to get the most knocks from mags and even users.  The blade raising mechanism has been problematic, many think the fence is mediocre for a saw in this price range, and Workbench Mag found it to be the weakest of those four for ripping.  That doesn't make it a bad saw, but when I spend that much money, I want to compare critically.

   IMO the Sears, GI, and DW are better values in that category, with the GI and Sears offering full cabinets and top shelf Biesemeyer fences.  Compared to the Griz 1023, there really isn't alot of comparison unless you don't have the need for the beef or don't have 220v electricity.  FWIW, the Sears 22124 is really a light duty cabinet saw with many of the advantages of heavier duty cabinet saws, and is well suited for a home shop, and is loaded with good features.