For years I have used plain old “white” Elmer’s Glue; never had a joint failure. I bought a new container last week (completely new container design) and I’m sure the formulation has changed too: not near as viscous, kind of watery.
So, I’m switching to Titebond. I’m inclined toward Titebond III; pricy but supposedly longer open time; Any comments?
Frosty
“I sometimes think we consider the good fortune of the early bird and overlook the bad fortune of the early worm.” FDR – 1922
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Jfrotjr - TIII dries a darker color than elmers, or TI. It is a little less viscous than T1. There is a TII Extended which has the longest working time (another 5 minutes), but I have not be able to get that.
The T's are all great glues. Just clamp like there is no tommorrow and you will be very happy. -Yurij
I use Titebond II and III. Great glues. The TBII Extend does afford more open time, but I have found the extra cost is worth it for applications like veneering pannels in a vaccum bag and such. I don't do these very often so I just stick with the regular formulas. Also, the clamoing time if just around an hour, so you can unclamp the work the same day. Never had a glue failure except when a batch accidentally froze one night, so store and use the glue within the recommended temperature ranges.
Adam
I love this stuff:
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=45104&cat=1,110,42965&ap=1
Great. I had considered that stuff once and then forgot about it. It sounds good. I'll try it.Frosty"I sometimes think we consider the good fortune of the early bird and overlook the bad fortune of the early worm." FDR - 1922
Depends on what you are using the glue for, and the expected life of the piece.
Titebonds are great glues right up until they creep under load in a structural application, or you have to repair a Titebond glue joint. Nothing sticks to Titebond residue. Titebond also leaves a gummy glueline to sand.
UF Plastic Resin doesn't creep, is easily reglued when the time comes, and has one of the best gluelines.
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Edited 1/25/2008 6:13 pm by BobSmalser
I use LV 2002GF glue unless the item will be in a damp environment. Then I use Titebond III.
Chris @ flairwoodworks
- Success is not the key to happines. Happiness is the key to success. If you love what you are doing, you will be successful. - Albert Schweitzer
I like the idea of the LV 2002GF for the long open time. I do some complicated glue-ups and I would like to reduce the chance of a heart attack during the "chinese fire drill" of assembly.Frosty"I sometimes think we consider the good fortune of the early bird and overlook the bad fortune of the early worm." FDR - 1922
I have been using tite bond for ever it seems with good luck. I use several versions depending on application. I used TBI in the beginning and switched to TBII. I tend to use that for most everything, but if I have a complicated glue-up I like the TB-extend. As a hobbyist, and not that fast to begin with, I like that extra time to get things done. To my understanding TBIII advantage over two is water resistance, and in my applications, I've never needed that, so TBII has been good enough. I have even used the TB with the flourecent marker in it for a chest I made that had the box glued to the base That had to be glued together prior to finishing. I was terified that the glue-line would show up when I dyed, and used the glue and a black light to get it all out of the areas prior to finishing. I was impressed with that product! I always clean my glue joints up with a sponge as soon as they are clamped to minimize glue removal once its set. I thought I had done a good job, but that black light pointed out several areas I had not done such a good job. I cleaned those up and it finished perfectly. Besides, I could have put some ozzie on, dug out an old T-shirt, and I could have been back in my younger days, but that's a nother discussion. Take care.
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And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
"But that's another discussion"Should you move over to the Cafe for that discussion?Frosty"I sometimes think we consider the good fortune of the early bird and overlook the bad fortune of the early worm." FDR - 1922
That was many, many, many, many moons ago!Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
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