I’m in the middle of building a Craftsman-style clothes hamper out of arbutus (Madrona) for my wife, and I’d like to leave the wain on the three edges of the top. How do I get rid of the grey colour before finishing? I plan to use a tung/linseed/varnish finish. Sanding would take forever, and dull the details of the wain. Some sort of chemical cleaner?
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Let me be the first to ask what is "wain"?
The Wood Loon
Acton, MA
It's the edge of the wood just under the bark, bark removed but wood left undisturbed. Also sometimes refered to as "live edge".
Mike HennessyPittsburgh, PA
Mike,
Isn't it "wane" rather than wain?
No suggestions on removing the staining, other than maybe using some wood bleach. But that might introduce other problems such as making the areas it hits too light. Have you considered painting the wane a contrasting color? Probably blasphemy. But it would be unusual..
ZoltonIf you see a possum running around in here, kill it. It's not a pet. - Jackie Moon
"Isn't it "wane" rather than wain? "
Now that you mention it, it got me wondering. Googled it and it came up both ways. So, since I have no confidence in my spelling prowess, I'll take your word for it! ;-)
Mike HennessyPittsburgh, PA
Mike,
As they say, "no wane, no pane..."
Woke up in a silly mood this morning..
ZoltonIf you see a possum running around in here, kill it. It's not a pet. - Jackie Moon
Odd - I'd never thought about it, and I'm a professional wordsmith. In B.C. it's 'wain'. At any rate, I still don't know what to do about it. I'm going to try the stuff that one uses to clean up cedar decking - I've had good luck with it in the past.
Well, I used Deck Clean, which is (I think) oxalic acid with a thickener so you can brush it onto vertical surfaces and let it sit. (That's especially useful on teak brightwork on boats). For decks, the instructions say product:water=1:4, but I used it 1:2. The wain now looks like the rest of the wood, perhaps a bit darker. If you'd like a pic, ask.
Sorry to inject a caution, but I believe Oxalic Acid is mentioned as being highly toxic with the possibility of skin and respiratory problems. Not being a panic monger, but I hope you washed the surface and used an alkali to neutralize the acid. Sanding after application could create dust and you are not cleaning a deck so would have no excuse if health problems arose in the future. And you have here put on record you actions.
Given that I commonly work with red cedar in my woodworking, and grow grapes as a pastime, with all the sprays that go with that, oxalic acid residue is about the least of my worries. Especially as the wane (that still doesn't look right) is only 3 cm by 80 cm in total.
Fair enough, but safety in the long term may be important.
My father-in-law used to spray metasystox around his greenhouse from a flit gun, but some farmworkers died in the fields from using it without face and body protection.
Last, waney edge is correct, think of the waning moon with the edge less defined. Or the Haywain, a Wainwright and many more all to do with wagons.
Live long and keep up the health insurance.
I'm in BC and I've only seen "wane".Chris @ http://www.flairwoodwork.spaces.live.com(soon to be http://www.flairwoodworks.com)
- Success is not the key to happiness. Happiness is the key to success. If you love what you are doing, you will be successful. - Albert Schweitzer
You hit the jackpot. For what it's worth, according to the Glossary of the Forest Product Laboratory's Handbook : Wood as an Engineering Material, the word is spelled wane. I'd assume the F.P.L. is about as definative as you can get.
Edited 3/14/2009 5:09 pm ET by SteveSchoene
Steve,
Not for nothing did I pass high school English with an "A."
The rest of the report card had all "D's" on it. My dad looked at that and said, "Looks like you've been spending too much time on one subject."
Please explain what that means..
Zolton If you see a possum running around in here, kill it. It's not a pet. - Jackie Moon
I cleaned up a nice wide sloped waney edge on a 52" long black walnut hanging clock/weather station instruments about 9" wide at the top. I used a fine brass brush-3/4" x 2 1/2"- normally used for brushing suede soft leather and brushed it like you would buff shoes to remove the wet flotsam left with the black hairy jetsam from under the bark. After it all dried I burnished the waney edge with that brush and after several coats of clear Danish oil it looked MARVE O LUS. I hope it works as well for you. PADDY.
ps. I know it looked good cause my daughter in law took it to her family's Christmas dinner to show off their new house warming gift from POPS.
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